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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #165 on: June 27, 2016, 04:34:56 PM »
I think they would be interested in WHY Clement wanted to help the McCanns. At the start of July when he wrote that letter the McCanns were not suspects. Also that same month the car boot is reported to be open at their villa. The media backlash started in August after the dog searches.
Given that Freud was dead, the obvious way to find out why was to go to the 5 adults who went to lunch first time round, and presumably just the McCanns for drinks, when they had been made arguidos.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #166 on: June 27, 2016, 05:24:13 PM »
Given that Freud was dead, the obvious way to find out why was to go to the 5 adults who went to lunch first time round, and presumably just the McCanns for drinks, when they had been made arguidos.

Before they were formally made arguidos; 3rd September. It was the day they were told by Ricardo Paiva that they were going to be questioned as arguidos.

They cancelled an interview with Paris Match and dinner with Freud. They made frantic phone calls, had dinner and settled the children in bed. At 9.50pm Kate rang Freud and he invited them round. She said it was comforting, a bit like going to see your Grandad after a horrible day at school.

Kate seems to have had a relatively untroubled life so far if the worst she could think of was a horrible day at school. Is that really up there with being suspected of having a hand in your daughter's disappearance?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #167 on: June 27, 2016, 05:48:25 PM »
Before they were formally made arguidos; 3rd September. It was the day they were told by Ricardo Paiva that they were going to be questioned as arguidos.

They cancelled an interview with Paris Match and dinner with Freud. They made frantic phone calls, had dinner and settled the children in bed. At 9.50pm Kate rang Freud and he invited them round. She said it was comforting, a bit like going to see your Grandad after a horrible day at school.

Kate seems to have had a relatively untroubled life so far if the worst she could think of was a horrible day at school. Is that really up there with being suspected of having a hand in your daughter's disappearance?

She probably thought what a ridiculously stupid idea it was

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #168 on: June 27, 2016, 06:50:15 PM »
Before they were formally made arguidos; 3rd September. It was the day they were told by Ricardo Paiva that they were going to be questioned as arguidos.

They cancelled an interview with Paris Match and dinner with Freud. They made frantic phone calls, had dinner and settled the children in bed. At 9.50pm Kate rang Freud and he invited them round. She said it was comforting, a bit like going to see your Grandad after a horrible day at school.

Kate seems to have had a relatively untroubled life so far if the worst she could think of was a horrible day at school. Is that really up there with being suspected of having a hand in your daughter's disappearance?
Not trying to be picky, but have you got your date right?

That sounds like the day before they actually were made arguidos.  I thought the second Freud visit was on the day they had been made arguidos, and they discussed the dog alerts.

Arrrrgh!!!!  When did the dog alerts get published?  Were they leaked before arguido day?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #169 on: June 27, 2016, 07:14:48 PM »
Not trying to be picky, but have you got your date right?

That sounds like the day before they actually were made arguidos.  I thought the second Freud visit was on the day they had been made arguidos, and they discussed the dog alerts.

Arrrrgh!!!!  When did the dog alerts get published?  Were they leaked before arguido day?

I woke on the morning of Monday 3 September with puffier ones. There was a phone call from Ricardo. He would be coming over later.....At 4.30pm Ricardo arrived with a female colleague.......He clarified with us the date of our planned departure back to the UK and told us that the PJ wanted to ‘interrogate’ me on Wednesday and Gerry on Thursday......We were not going to be questioned as witnesses, Ricardo finally admitted. ‘So what will our status be, then?’ Gerry pressed him. ‘It’s called arguido.’ .......At 9.50pm, I rang Clement. ‘Come on round,’ he said......When he heard about the dogs, he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?
Kate McCann Madeleine
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #170 on: June 27, 2016, 07:24:40 PM »
I woke on the morning of Monday 3 September with puffier ones. There was a phone call from Ricardo. He would be coming over later.....At 4.30pm Ricardo arrived with a female colleague.......He clarified with us the date of our planned departure back to the UK and told us that the PJ wanted to ‘interrogate’ me on Wednesday and Gerry on Thursday......We were not going to be questioned as witnesses, Ricardo finally admitted. ‘So what will our status be, then?’ Gerry pressed him. ‘It’s called arguido.’ .......At 9.50pm, I rang Clement. ‘Come on round,’ he said......When he heard about the dogs, he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?
Kate McCann Madeleine

One bark for yes
Two for no
That is funny

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Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #171 on: June 27, 2016, 07:26:46 PM »
One bark for yes
Two for no
That is funny

But only if you have a sense of humour ...

Offline G-Unit

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #172 on: June 27, 2016, 07:48:05 PM »
But only if you have a sense of humour ...

Dead funny when a dog trained to detect the smell of cadavers alerted to the place you last saw your missing daughter. I would have been in fits of laughter, me.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #173 on: June 27, 2016, 08:06:34 PM »
Dead funny when a dog trained to detect the smell of cadavers alerted to the place you last saw your missing daughter. I would have been in fits of laughter, me.

That's because you don't understand the alerts

Offline mercury

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #174 on: June 27, 2016, 08:19:01 PM »
Dead funny when a dog trained to detect the smell of cadavers alerted to the place you last saw your missing daughter. I would have been in fits of laughter, me.

Quite
At first at least before Gerrys so called research there just must have been shock, no reason to disbelieve that it was possible an intruder killed the child,  instead it was, derision, well, according to KMs book, so "unscientific" ...not as "scientific" as KM telling police to investigate a friend of hers' psychic vision as it was very important, got to laugh




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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #175 on: June 27, 2016, 08:32:00 PM »
Eddie, Keela and Henry....... &%+((£
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #176 on: June 27, 2016, 08:35:49 PM »
That's because you don't understand the alerts

I know enough to know I wouldn't have been laughing at childish jokes about them.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #177 on: June 27, 2016, 08:37:24 PM »
I know enough to know I wouldn't have been laughing at childish jokes about them.

It isn't a childish joke
It showed a lot of insight

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #178 on: June 27, 2016, 08:42:23 PM »
I know enough to know I wouldn't have been laughing at childish jokes about them.
You like to talk about evidence
Where is the independent scientific evidence to support the alerts
There is none
Absolutely none
Why

Offline G-Unit

Re: Clement Freud and his links to the Madeleine McCann case.
« Reply #179 on: June 27, 2016, 09:53:53 PM »
You like to talk about evidence
Where is the independent scientific evidence to support the alerts
There is none
Absolutely none
Why

You are speaking with hindsight. Freud and the McCanns had no idea what the forensic tests had found. Whatever it was, it led to the PJ deciding to interview them as arguidos. At that moment it was not something to make facetious remarks about. Unless, of course, they knew what the results of the forensic tests were. Whatever the reason their lack of concern is surprising. For all they knew their daughter was dead.
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