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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2016, 10:40:26 AM »
The appeal court will no doubt have a different view.  The idea that elected members can somehow usurp the will of the people is ridiculous!  Parliament is the peoples servant and not the other way round.

The 'will' as you call it, was not the majority of the electorate, merely 37% of the total electorate voted to leave.

I would have no quibble if a majority of the electorate voted to leave, but they didn't.

That is not a majority , let alone a mandate.

What it is, is humiliation for May and her fellow brexiteers.

Why would the Supreme Court alter the decision ?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2016, 10:54:09 AM »
The 'will' as you call it, was not the majority of the electorate, merely 37% of the total electorate voted to leave.

I would have no quibble if a majority of the electorate voted to leave, but they didn't.

That is not a majority , let alone a mandate.

What it is, is humiliation for May and her fellow brexiteers.

Why would the Supreme Court alter the decision ?

What are these troublemakers attempting to achieve in any event, its not as if they are remainders in most cases.  They obviously have too much money at their disposal, fund managers et all!
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2016, 11:01:48 AM »
What are these troublemakers attempting to achieve in any event, its not as if they are remainders in most cases.  They obviously have too much money at their disposal, fund managers et all!

Tell me Angelo, if the vote had been the reversed, would you have accepted it, with 37% of the electorate voting to remain.

Farage said, before he dropped it, if the vote had been the other way, he would have campaigned for another referendum. Then of course, he is a first class hypocrite, and a politician for over 30 years.

stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2016, 11:03:33 AM »
As regards one of the claimants..........

' Gina Miller – the woman at the vanguard of the legal battle to prevent Theresa May triggering article 50 without parliament’s approval – is used to a scrap.

As the lead claimant in a historic legal action against the prime minister, Miller has been thrust into the limelight, but the investment manager has a long history of taking on powerful establishments.

The 51-year-old co-founded the firm SCM Private in 2014, but she also set up the True and Fair Campaign in 2012 with her hedge-fund manager husband, Alan, which called for more transparency, and an end to hidden fund charges and misselling in the City of London’s fund management industry.'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/gina-miller-theresa-may-article-50-brexit-parliament-legal-challenge

Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2016, 11:06:30 AM »
Tell me Angelo, if the vote had been the reversed, would you have accepted it, with 37% of the electorate voting to remain.

Farage said, before he dropped it, if the vote had been the other way, he would have campaigned for another referendum. Then of course, he is a first class hypocrite, and a politician for over 30 years.

Everyone registered to vote had the opportunity to do so but ultimately it was decided by 52% to 48% to leave.
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2016, 11:12:34 AM »
Everyone registered to vote had the opportunity to do so but ultimately it was decided by 52% to 48% to leave.

It wasn't a majority of the electorate, was it.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2016, 11:15:53 AM »
Interesting that it is immigrants from Guyana and Spain who want to usurp the peoples wishes.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2016, 11:16:52 AM »
It wasn't a majority of the electorate, was it.

That's how democracy works.
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2016, 11:19:33 AM »
That's how democracy works.

So was the referral to the High Court.

I note you haven't made a comments on what Farage said Angelo.

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2016, 11:38:28 AM »
Interesting that it is immigrants from Guyana and Spain who want to usurp the peoples wishes.

Am I right in thinking that those behind today's London High Court action relating to Article 50 all are high net worth individuals with a vested interest in the City of London?
« Last Edit: November 03, 2016, 11:40:46 AM by Admin »

stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2016, 11:45:10 AM »
Am I right in thinking that those behind today's London High Court action relating to Article 50 all are high net worth individuals with a vested interest in the City of London?

Read around a bit.

Sour grapes from the brexiteers today.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2016, 01:01:44 PM »
So was the referral to the High Court.

I note you haven't made a comments on what Farage said Angelo.

Old news Stephen, Nigel build up an industry on leaving the EU, nobody was more surprised than he that the public voted for it in the end.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2016, 01:12:07 PM »
Old news Stephen, Nigel build up an industry on leaving the EU, nobody was more surprised than he that the public voted for it in the end.

What does Farage know about industry.

He has creamed off £2,000,000 in salary from the tax payer, and done FA, for it.


...and a reminder, 37% of the electorate voted for exit. Not exactly a majority.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2016, 06:59:01 PM »
It's all going to be jolly interesting should the Supreme Court uphold the present judgement.
Look at the nuts, bolts and spaniards spanners of it.

The bit that amuses me, given the current judgement is not overturned, is:
All the busy bodies will have their sticky fingers in the pie to agree what will be acceptable before Article 50 is invoked then parliament will vote on it and say, Yo! go for it bo. Then we invoke Article 50 so our team can sit down at the table with EU member states and substates whose opening gambit is "well you can forget that bit chief!". At what point do we decamp and have another parliamentary vote ?
This has the potential for turning a long job into an interminable job.
Imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg, Owen Smith, Tim Farron and the SNP parliamentary windbag going at it in the house.
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Offline John

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #164 on: November 04, 2016, 12:44:05 AM »
Let both houses have their vote if it saves a few dummies being thrown out of the pram, not that it matters one iota anyway because Article 50 will be invoked regardless.  The one certainty in all of this is that the UK will leave the EU and the sooner the better.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2016, 12:46:54 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.