Invoking Article 50

[mercury]

There is no guarantee uk will leave the eu
the high court has decreed theresa may  has no right to do so
And the high court is right
She dont have the authority

parliament has sovereign authority
It needs to be put to parliament
She and others thought she/they could cowboy her/their way out
Shes /they are wrong
Unfortunately for them the law is written in stone

[stephen25000]

Let both houses have their vote if it saves a few dummies being thrown out of the pram, not that it matters one iota anyway because Article 50 will be invoked regardless.  The one certainty in all of this is that the UK will leave the EU and the sooner the better.

It is the brexit supporters who have been throwing the dummies out of the pram since yesterday, and pro brexit  M.P.'s, desperately trying to convince people, a majority of the population voted for brexit, which of course it didn't.

What has emerged from some, is even more rampant paranoia, hatred of foreigners and other aberrations which are cardinal signs  of disturbed people.

[Jean-Pierre]

The above few posts from Mercury, Alice and Stephen are spot on.  This is going to become very interesting. 

I really do not see why the Brexiteers are a bit nonplussed.

One of the main planks of the brexit campaign was to 'take back control' and reestablish judicial and parliamentary sovereignty. 

So the high court has decided that according to English law, parliament must decide on a matter affecting the whole of the U.K.  In accordance with the declared wishes of leading brexit campaigners.

Be careful what you wish for - you might get it.........

[Angelo222]

There is no guarantee uk will leave the eu
the high court has decreed theresa may  has no right to do so
And the high court is right
She dont have the authority

parliament has sovereign authority
It needs to be put to parliament
She and others thought she/they could cowboy her/their way out
Shes /they are wrong
Unfortunately for them the law is written in stone

Aren't you forgetting that Parliament serves the people and not the other way round?

[Angelo222]

The above few posts from Mercury, Alice and Stephen are spot on.  This is going to become very interesting. 

I really do not see why the Brexiteers are a bit nonplussed.

One of the main planks of the brexit campaign was to 'take back control' and reestablish judicial and parliamentary sovereignty. 

So the high court has decided that according to English law, parliament must decide on a matter affecting the whole of the U.K.  In accordance with the declared wishes of leading brexit campaigners.

Be careful what you wish for - you might get it.........

From what I have seen in the press since the courts ruling the three judges are being accused of political bias.  Oh dear whatever next?   

[Alice Purjorick]

From what I have seen in the press since the courts ruling the three judges are being accused of political bias.  Oh dear whatever next?    

Eleven more judges cop a noss, in December, at what the three said then the eleven make their ruling in January 2017. As  in other cases it will be a ruling on points of law.
The solution to the initial problem is quite simple but I doubt party politics will allow it.
Westminster seems to be remarkably like Laputa:
"The Laputans' oddly-focused eyes are Swift's parodies of the microscope and telescope. So intent are the Laputans in their scientific studies that they cannot function in the everyday world, or even perceive it".

[stephen25000]

From what I have seen in the press since the courts ruling the three judges are being accused of political bias.  Oh dear whatever next?   

Did it ever actually occur to you  that they implemented the law as it stands ?

[Alice Purjorick]

Parliament being sovereign is sort of democratic.
The Prime Minister being allowed to slice the cake any which way he/she fancies at the time without a check on it is called a d**********p.
No prizes for filling in the Asterixes.

[mercury]

Aren't you forgetting that Parliament serves the people and not the other way round?

It does
But it never has a blank cheque
The referendum was counted and more people who bothered to vote voted for brexit than not by not a huge majority so no one can quote will of the people if half of them didnt vote of vote  brexit

The brexiteers are fuming, not sure why, as all mps agree it wilk eb brexit but they wont have a fascist govt doing what they like without support of oarliament which IS the supreme power lol

[stephen25000]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/07/brexit-cps-considers-complaint-that-leave-campaigns-misled-voters

'Brexit: CPS considers complaint that leave campaigns misled voters
Case argues Vote Leave and Leave.EU made ‘knowingly misleading’ assertions of fact, including claim EU cost UK £350m a week'

[John]

The Government is quietly preparing the first draft of a bill to trigger Article 50 - the formal process to divorce the EU - in case it loses the appeal in the Supreme Court.

A senior Government source told Sky News it was "sensible" for the Government to draw up a bill now in order to keep Theresa May's Brexit timetable on track should it be forced to grant a vote on activating Article 50 through Parliament.

http://news.sky.com/story/govt-already-drafting-brexit-trigger-bill-10648882

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where? here?

[stephen25000]

Remain campaigner Gina Miller reveals police have told her to 'avoid public spaces': Millionaire ex-model has received death threats following her High Court Brexit battle Millionaire businesswoman Gina Miller brought legal challenge over Brexit.

The 51-year-old said detectives warned her it was unsafe to go outsideShe said abusers had targeted her appearance following a TV interview.


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So brexit supporters then.

[stephen25000]

' Article 50 could be reversed, government may argue in Brexit case.

Lawyers consider potential change of tack for supreme court challenge to ruling that MPs must vote to trigger EU exit'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/11/brexit-could-be-reversed-government-lawyers-may-argue

That will make the brexiters happy.

[Eleanor]

Parliament did vote, six to one to hold a Referendum, the result of which would be accepted.  What value does that have?

However, if Parliament wants a vote on how and on exactly what, and to which degree, then I don't have problem with that.  Although it could get a bit convoluted if they all want something different.

In the end, someone has to decide.  And that can only be The Prime Minister, albeit unelected as such at the moment.