Was Smithman on his way to the Luz Medical Centre?

[Robittybob1]

the idea of hitting and killing a child is totally ridiculous

Not totally, for the emergency requiring Smithman to go to the DocLuz clinic could be justified by saying his daughter was hit by a car on the main road coming in to PDL.    There was that patch of blood further up the road but it was mixed blood and mostly male human blood. So the simulation of the vehicle hit and run accident did not really work. 

[Mr Gray]

Not totally, for the emergency requiring Smithman to go to the DocLuz clinic could be justified by saying his daughter was hit by a car on the main road coming in to PDL.    There was that patch of blood further up the road but it was mixed blood and mostly male human blood. So the simulation of the vehicle hit and run accident did not really work.

the difference between hit by a car and a person is quite different

[Robittybob1]

A most significant thread IMO for the sightings match the actual places perfectly.

[G-Unit]

A most significant thread IMO for the sightings match the actual places perfectly.

A local would have known two things;

Luzdoc is private, so cash on treatment.
It closes at 8pm.

A visitor looking up information on medical help would have discovered the above and also the out of hours number to ring.

An ambulance would have been the obviously quicker and cheaper option for both.

[Robittybob1]

A local would have known two things;

Luzdoc is private, so cash on treatment.
It closes at 8pm.

A visitor looking up information on medical help would have discovered the above and also the out of hours number to ring.

An ambulance would have been the obviously quicker and cheaper option for both.

So smithman less likely to be a local then.
A person already closeby e.g. Ocean Club could rush down to Doc Luz rather than back track and climb 5 floors to his apartment on the off-chance Doc Luz was open.  If he finds Doc Luz closed then goes to somewhere else to ring Doc Luz.  I'd like to see the records for that night to see if Doc Luz had any call outs (but if they are like NZ probably done cash and no records)

[John]

It could have played out something like this. 

Madeleine exits apartment after being freaked out by an intruder attempting to get in through the bedroom window, runs out into street and is knocked down by a passing motorist.  In the gloom and with nobody about and seeing that the child is lifeless the driver panicks, lifts the child, puts her in his vehicle and drives off to consider his next move. Maybe he doesn't have a licence, maybe he is underage, intoxicated, has no insurance, a banned driver, out on the rob, the possibilities are endless.

After a delay his conscience gets the better of him, he then decides to take Madeleine for treatment on the off chance that the medical centre is open so returns to the town and drives down to where he can park.  He then carries the child down to the medical centre passing the first of the Smiths before realising it is closed.  Terrified he walks on so as not to attract undue attention, he passes the rest of the Smith family and goes down the steps to get out of the way only to return the way he came and return to his vehicle.  Realising the girl really is deceased he reviews his options and drives off.

And so the Madeleine McCann mystery is born.

[Robittybob1]

It could have played out something like this. 

Madeleine exits apartment after being freaked out by an intruder attempting to get in through the bedroom window, runs out into street and is knocked down by a passing motorist.  In the gloom and with nobody about and seeing that the child is lifeless the driver panicks, lifts the child, puts her in his vehicle and drives off to consider his next move. Maybe he doesn't have a licence, maybe he is underage, intoxicated, has no insurance, a banned driver, out on the rob, the possibilities are endless.

After a delay his conscience gets the better of him, he then decides to take Madeleine for treatment on the off chance that the medical centre is open so returns to the town and drives down to where he can park.  He then carries the child down to the medical centre passing the first of the Smiths before realising it is closed.  Terrified he walks on so as not to attract undue attention, he passes the rest of the Smith family and goes down the steps to get out of the way only to return the way he came and return to his vehicle.  Realising the girl really is deceased he reviews his options and drives off.

And so the Madeleine McCann mystery is born.

Some parts of that sound possible but I'd think her body would be dumped soon afterward for the driver wouldn't want to be stopped with the body on board, so she would have been found near the side of the road some where next day (4th).

[pegasus]

... intruder attempting to get in through the bedroom window ...

That much of your scenario makes sense John.
Attempted entry via an easily accessible window is precedented in tens of thousands of solved cases.

[pegasus]

... exits apartment ...

This 2nd part of your scenario appears at first to makes sense John. The problem with it is this: In other other cases of home-alone child disturbed by attempted entry, the child invariably stays, surprisingly, within the property, and does not go to the street.
Unless you can provide a proven example of another case where it happened, your conjecture that the response would be to leave the property would appear to be unprecedented in case history.

[John]

Some parts of that sound possible but I'd think her body would be dumped soon afterward for the driver wouldn't want to be stopped with the body on board, so she would have been found near the side of the road some where next day (4th).

I don't agree, finding a body could result in him being found, best to hide it where nobody could possibly find it and we know that the terrain around that area lends itself perfectly to that possibility.  Even Kate McCann has recently revealed that she too believes that Madeleine can be found not too far from where she was taken.

[pegasus]

@John if child knew where parents were and went to get them, it would involve no road-crossing. Scenario you posted works only if there is no knowledge of where parents are, that is the only way to get road-crossing.

[John]

@John if child knew where parents were and went to get them, it would involve no road-crossing. Scenario you posted works only if there is no knowledge of where parents are, that is the only way to get road-crossing.

Always assuming the child knew where she was going.  In sheer terror she could very well have been distracted and crossed the road remembering that that was the route she took to the club every morning.  Remember too that the Portuguese tracker dogs followed Madeleine's scent as far as the lamp post on the opposite side of the road to the entrance to mini reception.

[misty]

Always assuming the child knew where she was going.  In sheer terror she could very well have been distracted and crossed the road remembering that that was the route she took to the club every morning.  Remember too that the Portuguese tracker dogs followed Madeleine's scent as far as the lamp post on the opposite side of the road to the entrance to mini reception.

Sheer terror does not involve closing doors & gates behind you as you flee.
All you need is James Nesbitt & a fox to make your scenario credible.

[John]

Sheer terror does not involve closing doors & gates behind you as you flee.
All you need is James Nesbitt & a fox to make your scenario credible.

She could slip out a patio door very easily and a child gate was no impediment to a nearly 4-year-old.  Alternatively she could have gone over the railing into the garden.

[pegasus]

Always assuming the child knew where she was going.  In sheer terror she could very well have been distracted and crossed the road remembering that that was the route she took to the club every morning.  Remember too that the Portuguese tracker dogs followed Madeleine's scent as far as the lamp post on the opposite side of the road to the entrance to mini reception.

IMO that route crossing road then crossing road again makes sense only if the child did not know for certain where the missing adults were.