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Offline G-Unit

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #615 on: October 02, 2016, 10:45:21 PM »
Kate was relieved that they weren't on the first floor so didn't have to worry about what most likely would be a fatal or serious fall from the balcony, unlike a ground floor flat where the risk of fatal or serious injury would be much less.  The fact that you have interpreted Kate's words to mean she didn't watch her kids on the patio or worry about them at all is YOUR biased conjecture, nothing more.

You seem to be saying that she looked at both flats and thought 'If the  kids fall off their's they'll be seriously injured or dead. If my kids fall from ours they'll probably only get a broken arm'. What a ridiculous thing to imply. he actually said;

Though I envied David and Fiona their sea view, being on the ground floor meant we didn’t have to worry about the children’s safety on a balcony. [Madeleine]

They didn't have to worry; it's quite clear what she said. No comparison of likely injuries there. Not a hint that she saw her balcony as dangerous; nothing to worry about, she said.



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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #616 on: October 02, 2016, 10:50:26 PM »
You seem to be saying that she looked at both flats and thought 'If the  kids fall off their's they'll be seriously injured or dead. If my kids fall from ours they'll probably only get a broken arm'. What a ridiculous thing to imply. he actually said;

Though I envied David and Fiona their sea view, being on the ground floor meant we didn’t have to worry about the children’s safety on a balcony. [Madeleine]

They didn't have to worry; it's quite clear what she said. No comparison of likely injuries there. Not a hint that she saw her balcony as dangerous; nothing to worry about, she said.
So when she looked at the balcony on the first floor flat of David and Fiona what thoughts do you think went through her mind, apart from "nice view"?  And why do you suppose she felt that the ground floor flat posed less of a worry than a first floor flat?  Come on, it's not a difficult question!

Given that you seem to believe Kate has no concept of how to look after her own children why is it do you think that she still has custody of her twins?
« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 10:52:27 PM by Alfie »

Offline mercury

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #617 on: October 02, 2016, 10:52:13 PM »
Thanks for quoting Mercury's barely coherent rant in reply to my post.  I'd like to point out that despite her repeated accusation that I claimed stairs would "cushion" a fall, I did not use this word and she needs to learn to quote me correctly or not bother at all.
A fall from the McCanns' patio over the railings would be a matter of a few feet, with steps breaking the fall.  A fall from a first floor balcony would be a matter of 20+ feet with nothing to break the fall.  One can understand a parent's preference for the ground floor apartment. 



And may i remnd you that MOST of the balcony area is no where near any steps for breaking a fall, in fact NONE of it
« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 11:10:08 PM by mercury »

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #618 on: October 02, 2016, 10:53:04 PM »
quote author=Alfie link=topic=7605.msg357891#msg357891 date=1475434175]
A fall from the McCanns' patio over the railings would be a matter of a few feet, with steps breaking the fall.  A fall from a first floor balcony would be a matter of 20+ feet with nothing to break the fall.  One can understand a parent's preference for the ground floor apartment. 


Thanks for proving my point.

Offline mercury

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #619 on: October 02, 2016, 10:54:02 PM »
It was your sentence "Lastly, when she was indoors having a shower and presumably the kids left outside the bathroom, and payne knocked, he says the patio door was open??"
So I said "what does that lead to"?

It leads to the position of the kids being a,one with an unlocked patio door unsupervised...why was it that difficult to understand

Offline mercury

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #620 on: October 02, 2016, 11:18:03 PM »
Thanks for proving my point.
Which point?
That there were steps to break a fall? How do steps break a fall without the steps being lethal in addition?
That there were even steps over a fall? No steps. The fall is beside the steps

« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 11:21:03 PM by mercury »

Offline mercury

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #621 on: October 02, 2016, 11:31:20 PM »
It was your sentence "Lastly, when she was indoors having a shower and presumably the kids left outside the bathroom, and payne knocked, he says the patio door was open??"
So I said "what does that lead to"?

I answerd this but for some bizarre reason its disappeared


What it leads to is the probability that kate mccann was havng a shower with the kids left alone to potentially open the patio door walk out and do what they want
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #622 on: October 03, 2016, 12:22:54 AM »
I answerd this but for some bizarre reason its disappeared


What it leads to is the probability that kate mccann was havng a shower with the kids left alone to potentially open the patio door walk out and do what they want
But they didn't, or do you think they did?
« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 01:17:22 AM by ShiningInLuz »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #623 on: October 03, 2016, 12:32:11 AM »
I answerd this but for some bizarre reason its disappeared


What it leads to is the probability that kate mccann was havng a shower with the kids left alone to potentially open the patio door walk out and do what they want

If anything had happened around that time though, as Russell said there were four doctors on the tennis courts to help. What he doesn't mention is why that particular time occurred to him. The PJ, I believe, thought it was later;

there was no suggestion that anything untoward had happened and they were concealing it, there’s you know I, I just find it staggering that anyone could believe that, that something tragic could have happened in the room and that a pair of highly able, highly qualified Doctors would rather cover it up, just dispose of any evidence and then swimmingly come down to dinner, you know particularly when, if there, if there had been an accident or something terrible, they’ve got four other Consultants or Senior Doctors within a, you know, you know on the tennis courts or within a short shout so you know we, so much has got lost over, over time, I think you know, it is ridi, it just seems senseless you know someone involved in, you know that it was there, that four families go on, have a great holiday, show no, no signs of abnormal behaviour, err and then rather than intervene and try and save Madeleine if she’d become injured, or, or at least raise the alarm, Emergency Services, mouth to mouth, blah, blah, blah, that, that either Kate and Gerry alone or by implication with help from anyone else would, would opt to, to go into some you know amazing cover up and I think that’s just got lost, I think that’s got lost in the whole thing, sorry anyway”.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm
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Offline mercury

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #624 on: October 03, 2016, 12:36:54 AM »
But they didn't, or do you think they did?
Thats not the point
The point is they could have
The point is that kate said she had no worries about a balcony cos they were in the ground floor, sheesh
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #625 on: October 03, 2016, 04:14:50 AM »
If anything had happened around that time though, as Russell said there were four doctors on the tennis courts to help. What he doesn't mention is why that particular time occurred to him. The PJ, I believe, thought it was later;

there was no suggestion that anything untoward had happened and they were concealing it, there’s you know I, I just find it staggering that anyone could believe that, that something tragic could have happened in the room and that a pair of highly able, highly qualified Doctors would rather cover it up, just dispose of any evidence and then swimmingly come down to dinner, you know particularly when, if there, if there had been an accident or something terrible, they’ve got four other Consultants or Senior Doctors within a, you know, you know on the tennis courts or within a short shout so you know we, so much has got lost over, over time, I think you know, it is ridi, it just seems senseless you know someone involved in, you know that it was there, that four families go on, have a great holiday, show no, no signs of abnormal behaviour, err and then rather than intervene and try and save Madeleine if she’d become injured, or, or at least raise the alarm, Emergency Services, mouth to mouth, blah, blah, blah, that, that either Kate and Gerry alone or by implication with help from anyone else would, would opt to, to go into some you know amazing cover up and I think that’s just got lost, I think that’s got lost in the whole thing, sorry anyway”.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm
Who was going to call the other doctors?  There were a total of 7 doctors in the Tapas 9 group.  There are 4 on the court so there are 3 somewhere else.  Have you tried to work out who is who?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #626 on: October 03, 2016, 07:54:09 AM »
Thanks for quoting Mercury's barely coherent rant in reply to my post.  I'd like to point out that despite her repeated accusation that I claimed stairs would "cushion" a fall, I did not use this word and she needs to learn to quote me correctly or not bother at all.

No, you suggested concrete steps would break a fall.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #627 on: October 03, 2016, 08:10:35 AM »
No, you suggested concrete steps would break a fall.
Yes I did and yes they would.  Your point is?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #628 on: October 03, 2016, 08:17:38 AM »
Yes I did and yes they would.  Your point is?

It's like saying the ground 20 metres below a flat would break someone's fall.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/break+fall
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Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #629 on: October 03, 2016, 08:27:20 AM »
It's like saying the ground 20 metres below a flat would break someone's fall.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/break+fall
If the fall in 20 metres but the faller lands on steps at 5 metres the steps have....what?