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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #165 on: November 14, 2016, 11:19:19 PM »
Since you mention it twice, I feel compelled to point out the differences:

One woman was jailed for 'abuse' as was the claim against her for leaving a child unattended all night while she went for a drink. The child was exposed to danger as I have mentioned before.

The tapas planned a holiday in which they would leave their children unattended- exposed to danger every night, even after their daughter challenged them about being left alone with two other babies, the Parents left them alone again. One child has never been seen since- the child who challenged the parents...OMG they were given a red carpet, money, fame, they had PR to take care of the not so nice bits of the story, and here we are today years later and still people look upon them as victims. I am thinking about what happened to Little Maddie, who cares less about her parents reputations!
Was the mistake leaving the door unlocked?  Does everyone lock their doors every night? 
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #166 on: November 14, 2016, 11:25:30 PM »
Was the mistake leaving the door unlocked?  Does everyone lock their doors every night?

I think the mistake was two fold
1. leaving the children alone every night in a strange country
2. leaving the doors unlocked

for those who don't lock their doors and leave their children alone at night, you are asking for trouble, check with the child protection agency just in case you are right and they are wrong.
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Offline mercury

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #167 on: November 14, 2016, 11:41:36 PM »
Was the mistake leaving the door unlocked?  Does everyone lock their doors every night?

Are you joking!?
Do you leave your doors open every night regardless of your circumstances?
Would you still leave them open
with babies indoors
whilst you left the house?
And jog off to somewhere where you had no idea what was happening because you couldnt hear or see but just hope they were doing ok? And just go every half hour allegedly to check but not really check cos you just listened at the door.....And would you tell total strangers you left them there all alone? Insane
Wheres the child protection here?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #168 on: November 14, 2016, 11:50:42 PM »
Are you joking!?
Do you leave your doors open every night regardless of your circumstances?
Would you still leave them open
with babies indoors
whilst you left the house?
And jog off to somewhere where you had no idea what was happening because you couldnt hear or see but just hope they were doing ok? And just go every half hour allegedly to check but not really check cos you just listened at the door.....And would you tell total strangers you left them there all alone? Insane
Wheres the child protection here?
I'd hate to say what we used to do. The kids survived and no longer a problem.
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Offline mercury

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #169 on: November 14, 2016, 11:59:32 PM »
I'd hate to say what we used to do. The kids survived and no longer a problem.

but what were the circumstances

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #170 on: November 15, 2016, 12:35:49 AM »
but what were the circumstances
Well it wasn't a holiday in Portugal. 
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Offline sadie

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #171 on: November 15, 2016, 12:40:31 AM »
Was the mistake leaving the door unlocked?  Does everyone lock their doors every night?

In country areas it is / was not uncommon for people to leave there doors unlocked.  Friends of ours did it until they moved house about 10 years ago. 

Maybe they still do ... dunno, we have lost touch

Offline mercury

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as the
« Reply #172 on: November 15, 2016, 12:51:36 AM »
Well it wasn't a holiday in Portugal.

I suppise if you were in some  outback with no people around it may be different to a populated holiday resort and house on main road, unlocked, where any tom dick or harry could enter and where parents tokd every tm dick and harry they keft the kids alone...utterly bonkers

Would YOU tell strangers youd left youre kids alone?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #173 on: November 15, 2016, 01:01:10 AM »
Was the mistake leaving the door unlocked?  Does everyone lock their doors every night?

Only if they don't want to invalidate their insurance policies.
My company allows me to leave my doors unlocked and the alarm off provided I installed the razor wire and flame throwers exactly as shown on the drawings. I bunged in a couple of Bofors for good measure.
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Offline misty

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #174 on: November 15, 2016, 01:08:18 AM »
Only if they don't want to invalidate their insurance policies.
My company allows me to leave my doors unlocked and the alarm off provided I installed the razor wire and flame throwers exactly as shown on the drawings. I bunged in a couple of Bofors for good measure.

Are the Ins. Co. OK with young children being in charge of the Bofors?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as the
« Reply #175 on: November 15, 2016, 01:15:58 AM »
I suppise if you were in some  outback with no people around it may be different to a populated holiday resort and house on main road, unlocked, where any tom dick or harry could enter and where parents tokd every tm dick and harry they keft the kids alone...utterly bonkers

Would YOU tell strangers youd left youre kids alone?
Who were the strangers?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #176 on: November 15, 2016, 08:11:02 AM »
It wouldn't have mattered where the apartment was because the decision to leave the children sleeping and go out for dinner was taken before the group left the UK. That's why Dr Payne demanded that they all be in adjacent apartments;

we'd kind of demanded to have all our rooms together.......because otherwise erm it would mean you know we couldn't really have had dinner together.......we either had to take the kids with us to dinner, or erm you know, find some way of sort of doing baby listening ourselves, erm and that was partly why we requested you know us all to have the apartments all together'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Did they go into the apartments? Not initially;

So basically we'd go and have dinner and then we'd sort of run back you know every fifteen twenty minutes and have a listen at the door and make sure nobodys screaming their head off'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Could they see people on the balcony?

578 'And from where you were sat, what was your view like of the apartments''
 Reply 'Erm well yeah I could see, I mean I could see the patio doors of ours and Gerry and Kates'.
1578 'How much of the patio doors''
 Reply 'Erm well kind of the top half really'.
1578 'Okay'.
 Reply "Yeah you know, I didn't get a full you know, you couldn't get a full view sort of right in, cos there were bushes, there were bushes and stuff there, erm'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Was the patio bathed in light? Not on 3rd May imo, or the street/steps would have been lighter in this pic;








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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #177 on: November 15, 2016, 11:20:47 AM »
Are the Ins. Co. OK with young children being in charge of the Bofors?

Provided their training certificates are revalidated every 12 months.
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Offline Lace

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #178 on: November 15, 2016, 11:41:00 AM »
Since you mention it twice, I feel compelled to point out the differences:

One woman was jailed for 'abuse' as was the claim against her for leaving a child unattended all night while she went for a drink. The child was exposed to danger as I have mentioned before.

The tapas planned a holiday in which they would leave their children unattended- exposed to danger every night, even after their daughter challenged them about being left alone with two other babies, the Parents left them alone again. One child has never been seen since- the child who challenged the parents...OMG they were given a red carpet, money, fame, they had PR to take care of the not so nice bits of the story, and her we are today years later and still people look upon them as victims. I am thinking about what hapened to Little Maddie, who cares this is about her parents reputations!

You said 'even after their daughter challenged them about being left alone'    I presume you mean when Madeleine asked 'why didn't you come when me and Sean cried'.     Why do you automatically presume Madeleine meant when she was left alone?

As I have said before I believe Madeleine meant when the twins were crying on the Tuesday night,  Amelie woke Sean and Madeleine,   Sean then cried and Madeleine called 'Daddy Daddy'  then went into her parents bedroom because they didn't come to her.

In my opinion.

Offline Lace

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as the
« Reply #179 on: November 15, 2016, 11:43:31 AM »
I don't think an intruder would have entered via the patio either,   for a start there were two gates.
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