They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?

[stephen25000]

I don't think anyone blame Madeleine.

Precisely Jassi.

Why should anyone blame her ?

As we know, there is no definitive evidence an abduction took place, just supposition, as with the other possibilities.

However, we do know who placed her in needless jeopardy, along with her siblings.

[sadie]

'There was no publicity about the activities of criminals ... which is probably why the McCanns didn't factor dangers from home invaders into their decision to take their evening meal less than a minute away from their children.'

That statement fails at the first hurdle, as they locked the apartment during the day.

Ipso facto, they anticipated they could get burgled.

But at night, they could see the only entrance they believed open and at only 50 metres.  Furthermore it was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

[Brietta]

50 mtr .....50 mile it makes no difference ....they saw nothing did they .........

The parents of the children who were assaulted in their beds were not dining fifty metres/forty seconds away; in some cases they must have been less than a metre away from their children.

By your logic the thing is that they must have been at fault in some way.  If not, how was it possible for an intruder to assault their children without them having the foresight to prevent it?

[xtina]

The parents of the children who were assaulted in their beds were not dining fifty metres/forty seconds away; in some cases they must have been less than a metre away from their children.

By your logic the thing is that they must have been at fault in some way.  If not, how was it possible for an intruder to assault their children without them having the foresight to prevent it?

don't you think that is well off topic

[Alice Purjorick]

"The McCanns took a gamble and lost" is something you have stated a few times on this board, it's very kind of you to keep mentioning it, I'm sure we're all most grateful for your insight.

Glad to hear it old chap. Anytime.
Maybe you also have a response to the basic proposition ? Like whether you believe that to be the case and if not why not?

[Alice Purjorick]

But at night, they could see the only entrance they believed open and at only 50 metres.  Furthermore it was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

Or not if you look at some of the debates on the Jez Gerry and Jane threads.
More a sort of a "dark" rather than a light.

[stephen25000]

But at night, they could see the only entrance they believed open and at only 50 metres.  Furthermore it was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

Irrelevant.

[sadie]

Can you provide the evidence that happened ?

...and to briefly remind you, the Mccanns weren't in a garden.

They were at the Tapas; eating, drinking and talking.

The Mccanns WERE in the gardens to the apartments.  The Tapas restaurant is ONLY called Tapas because it is close to the only Tapas bar in the complex.  It could equally be called the pool restaurant or the Tennis Court Restaurant.  It had NOTHING to do with the Tapas Bar apart from being situated near it.


Some friends of ours in the country had a massive markquee erected in their equally massive garden.  It was to house the wedding reception of their daughter.


The so called 'Tapas' Restaurant is rather like a marquee, if a bit more permanent.

As the marquee was in a garden, so the restaurant is in a garden; the garden to the apartments adjoining.

The 'Tapas' Restaurant was in the garden to the apartments

[Eleanor]

don't you think that is well off topic

No.

[xtina]

The Mccanns WERE in the gardens to the apartments.  The Tapas restaurant is ONLY called Tapas because it is close to the only Tapas bar in the complex.  It could equally be called the pool restaurant or the Tennis Court Restaurant.  It had NOTHING to do with the Tapas Bar apart from being situated near it.


Some friends of ours in the country had a massive markquee erected in their equally massive garden.  It was to house the wedding reception of their daughter.


The so called 'Tapas' Restaurant is rather like a marquee, if a bit more permanent.

As the marquee was in a garden, so the restaurant is in a garden; the garden to the apartments adjoining.

The 'Tapas' Restaurant was in the garden to the apartments

they were still drinking..wine.....and as i said ......they may as well have been 50 mile away...they saw nothing ...zilch

[sadie]

bit late docha think ..........you have posted enough .......on it

and constantly banged on about the 50 mtr garden .............

Yea, but I prefer NOT having to correct peoples ERRORS and NASTY TALK.


I will keep on telling the truth against lies whopping mistakes as long as it takes and as long as I am able.

[xtina]

No.

the mccs were not in the apartment was they ......so why go on about children who's mothers/parent were

[xtina]

Yea, but I prefer NOT having to correct peoples ERRORS and NASTY TALK.


I will keep on telling the truth against lies whopping mistakes as long as it takes and as long as I am able.

so will i ...........

[sadie]

Or not if you look at some of the debates on the Jez Gerry and Jane threads.
More a sort of a "dark" rather than a light.

The patio area was illuminated by the street lamp opposite ... and because of this any movement would likely have been seen by Mccann friends.

Even Amaral stated that no-one would go in that way with the parents and group so overlooking it..

[sadie]

Irrelevant.

Wake up at the back stephen.

Nothing irrelevant about being only 50 metres away from the only apartment that was illuminated.


Madeleine was targetted.  No other reason why they would chose that flat apart, I suppose, for the deeply recessed front door which was in blackness .... and nobody walked past.