Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[stephen25000]

and easy to make mistakes because every word uttered is recorded.

So where in the first statements recorded, invariably the most accurate ones.

So referring to my earlier point, there was no claim in the original statements , that then appeared in the book.

[Robittybob1]

So where in the first statements recorded, invariably the most accurate ones.

So referring to my earlier point, there was no claim in the original statements , that then appeared in the book.

The deponents don't determine what is in the Portuguese generated statements.

[stephen25000]

The deponents don't determine what is in the Portuguese generated statements.

Your reasoning, is totally flawed.

[Robittybob1]

Your reasoning, is totally flawed.

The PJ asks the question and the interpreter asks the deponent.  The deponent answers and the interpreter tells the PJ the answer.  What does the person recording the statement write down?

Here is an example from Jane's statement "After checking on her daughters, she returned to the restaurant. On her way back Gerry was no longer talking in the place where she had seen him."  So this is the PJ's version of what Jane has said.

[Mr Gray]

Your reasoning, is totally flawed.

Robs reasoning is absolutely correct
Point out where he is wrong

[stephen25000]

The PJ asks the question and the interpreter asks the deponent.  The deponent answers and the interpreter tells the PJ the answer.  What does the person recording the statement write down?

Here is an example from Jane's statement "After checking on her daughters, she returned to the restaurant. On her way back Gerry was no longer talking in the place where she had seen him."  So this is the PJ's version of what Jane has said.

Yet again.....


So where in the official files from statements by the McCann's,  their associates , or the PJ, does it say...

 Madeleine's siblings  were unresponsive ?

 She believed they may have been drugged?

 She repeatedly checked their breathing?

 She alerted the police to this when they arrived ?

[Mr Gray]

Yet again.....


So where in the official files from statements by the McCann's,  their associates , or the PJ, does it say...

 Madeleine's siblings  were unresponsive ?

 She believed they may have been drugged?

 She repeatedly checked their breathing?

 She alerted the police to this when they arrived ?

Can you tel us how you know Kate didn't mention all these things but they were no written down
Kate was interviewed for about 15 hours or more yet her statements can be read in minutes

[pathfinder73]

Another victory!  I had a feeling there was evidence that Matt and Russell had left the table for some as yet unexplained reason it states in the Summary document :
"At 21.10, given her husband’s absence, Jane Tanner went to check on the state of her daughter. She left by the reception and walked up the road that passes the entrance to the apartment block. She was not seen by Gerald McCann, nor by Jeremy Wilkins, although she did see them. Gerald had his back to her, however Wilkins was facing the place where Tanner passed."

No one has ever noticed that Jane did her check in her husband's absence.  "At 21.10, given her husband’s absence"    What was he doing?

Russell was at the table. The only person missing from the table when Jane left was Gerry. Watching football they thought - they were wrong 

[stephen25000]

Can you tel us how you know Kate didn't mention all these things but they were no written down
Kate was interviewed for about 15 hours or more yet her statements can be read in minutes

Can you try that in English.

[Mr Gray]

Can you try that in English.

it is in English
I'm posting on a phone with a poor internet connection from somewhere quite remote

[jassi]

You must be keen.

[faithlilly]

When I go to my GP with a medical complaint I am rarely if ever hooked up to complicated machines.  Diagnoses are nearly always done as a result of touching, listening and looking (no cuddles for me sadly).

Are you usually sedated with an unknown agent ?

[Alfie]

Are you usually sedated with an unknown agent ?

Irrelevant.  The discussion was concerning the ability of doctors to check vital signs without the use of "complicated machines". Is it possible or not, in your view?

[Alfie]

"The McCanns are uncaring monsters because either 1) they sedated their kids and didn't care if they lived or died or 2) they were concerned that their kids might have been sedated by an abductor but still didn't care enough whether they lived or died" - is this the position of those currently criticising them on this thread? 

[Alice Purjorick]

So what can we take away from this discussion, apart from it being another opportunity to harp on and criticise?  Can we draw any inferences or conclusions do you think?

That the OP that kicked it off was based on two newspaper articles, the accuracy and provenance of neither being known, a bit of fill in text by Robbitybob and off it goes shoving out pseodopodia in all diections like so many demented amoebae.
I incline to the view that what we know now is no more nor less than was known in 2008 after the files were released.