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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1245 on: January 10, 2017, 10:14:47 PM »
I quoted it about 2 weeks ago.  It is in the file itself somewhere.

I found it through Google http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CRECHE_ANOMALIES.htm

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Since a small part of the case file - the DVD version was made accessible to the public, a great deal of ink has flowed. We note that it is necessary to be cautious as to its contents. In fact, it is only 17% of the complete case file and certain details are only of interest in relation to the complete file and not taken out of their context.

Please note: This page is not part of the official police files. It is an analysis of Anomalies in the Creche files, that can be seen here LINK
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1246 on: January 11, 2017, 12:16:24 AM »
Spin it any way you want it if it makes you happier.  The fact is Redwood stated clearly that after forensically studying the timeline that his team had identified a window of opportunity for a stranger abductor to strike, and based on the evidence that is what they believed happened.  That is precisely how his words were interpreted and reported by news media around the world, it's peculiar that they all got it so incredibly wrong and only a handful of "sceptics" got it "right", don't you think?

Here is davel's sig line;

as experienced investigators...based on the evidence...we believe Madeleine McCann was removed from the apartment by a stranger....DCI Redwood...Scotland Yard

Comparing it with Redwood's words it's clearly a misquote, he never said the bolded words. He may have meant that, given the standard of English grammar these days, but he didn't say it.



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Offline Brietta

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1247 on: January 11, 2017, 12:22:36 AM »
               Topic, please.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1248 on: January 11, 2017, 12:27:35 AM »
Spin it any way you want it if it makes you happier.  The fact is Redwood stated clearly that after forensically studying the timeline that his team had identified a window of opportunity for a stranger abductor to strike, and based on the evidence that is what they believed happened.  That is precisely how his words were interpreted and reported by news media around the world, it's peculiar that they all got it so incredibly wrong and only a handful of "sceptics" got it "right", don't you think?

No matter how is words were reported by the press his words are there in the interview for everyone to watch.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1249 on: January 11, 2017, 12:31:53 AM »
If that is what he actually said, of course, which he didn't. He actually said 'Yes, I mean, you know, we have conducted a forensic analysis of the timeline, and there is clearly opportunity there - for Madeleine McCann to have been removed from that apartment alive - and it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger,
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/60april12/ITV1_27_04_2012.htm

He says there was opportunity within the timeline for Madeleine McCann to have been taken from the apartment alive. He doesn't say it happened, he says it could have happened.

He believes that if it did happen it was carried out as a criminal act by a stranger.
What the transcript says.
Whether or not there was a kidnapper is definitely part of the topic.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1250 on: January 11, 2017, 08:16:19 AM »
Here is davel's sig line;

as experienced investigators...based on the evidence...we believe Madeleine McCann was removed from the apartment by a stranger....DCI Redwood...Scotland Yard

Comparing it with Redwood's words it's clearly a misquote, he never said the bolded words. He may have meant that, given the standard of English grammar these days, but he didn't say it.

It's clear that Maddie was almost certainly abducted
It's pointless trying to make a point as no one will change their mind after 10 years but it doesn't matter what anyone here thinks

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1251 on: January 11, 2017, 10:08:37 AM »
No matter how is words were reported by the press his words are there in the interview for everyone to watch.
And anyone with more than a couple of brain cells to rub together will know that what he meant is that the Met have been treating Madeleine's disappearance as a case of a criminal act committed by a stranger.

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1252 on: January 11, 2017, 10:12:14 AM »
What remains abundantly cleat,  is that by going down the line of abduction, SY have achieved nothing.

Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1253 on: January 11, 2017, 10:17:12 AM »
And anyone with more than a couple of brain cells to rub together will know that what he meant is that the Met have been treating Madeleine's disappearance as a case of a criminal act committed by a stranger.

Maybe that's why they haven't found either Madeleine, or a culprit.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1254 on: January 11, 2017, 10:25:39 AM »
And anyone with more than a couple of brain cells to rub together will know that what he meant is that the Met have been treating Madeleine's disappearance as a case of a criminal act committed by a stranger.

It is a good job you lot don't do contract law.
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Offline Lace

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1255 on: January 11, 2017, 10:28:48 AM »
I have just been reading the statements of SILVIA MARIA CORREIO ROMOS BATISTA,   the person who helped to translate questions to the Police on the 3rd of May.   The person that posters say didn't mention that Kate asked for the twins to be tested for drugs.

Well,   she doesn't exactly say what she translated,  she just said she helped to translate,  there is nothing about how Kate found the children etc.   

What I did find though that she made a lot of negative remarks,   she thought it strange that the window that the McCann's said was open was far from the bed of Madeleine and there wasn't enough room for someone to have taken Madeleine from her bed and out through the window.   That the group and the parents weren't bothered about searching.   That Gerry got down like a praying arab when the Police arrived.   That she found it strange that someone could have seen another person crossing the road from the angle they were standing.

Another thing I noticed was the mistakes she made,  she said the witness to the man crossing the road with a child was 'dark skinned',   and that the parents took the twins from their cots to the other apartment.

Sorry,  but I wouldn't call her a reliable person to say whether or not Kate asked for the twins to be tested for drugs.

Offline Lace

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1256 on: January 11, 2017, 10:31:26 AM »
What remains abundantly cleat,  is that by going down the line of abduction, SY have achieved nothing.

How do you know SY have achieved nothing?   You know nothing about the investigation and neither does anyone else.

Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1257 on: January 11, 2017, 10:44:41 AM »
How do you know SY have achieved nothing?   You know nothing about the investigation and neither does anyone else.

Can you demonstrate any of their achievements ?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Lace

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1258 on: January 11, 2017, 11:08:39 AM »
Can you demonstrate any of their achievements ?

Well as they announced there wouldn't be a running commentary on the investigation then  no I can't,   it is a police investigation which is being kept under wraps until it has ended.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1259 on: January 11, 2017, 01:27:56 PM »
It's clear that Maddie was almost certainly abducted
It's pointless trying to make a point as no one will change their mind after 10 years but it doesn't matter what anyone here thinks

I'm just pointing out that you seem to feel the need to misquote DCI Redwood. Why you wish to mislead people if what happened to Madeleine is so clear I can't imagine. Is it because no police force has actually committed itself by stating categorically that she was abducted?
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