Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Robittybob1]

No Rob, there is no indication or statement to support that.

Why would a translator have a conflict of interest ?

That makes no sense at all.

Kate writes about it in her book, and at least two British Liaison officers that met with the McCanns admit the topic was brought up on the 5th.  It was their role to liaise with the Portuguese PJ.  THe PJ tell us it was raised again later when Kate was made arguido according to the statements in the file but we don't have a record of how Kate raised that topic.

There are many reasons the translator Silvia had a conflict of interest and I have covered them as much as I can in the thread on the topic. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7864.0

[G-Unit]

Kate writes about it in her book, and at least two British Liaison officers that met with the McCanns admit the topic was brought up on the 5th.  It was their role to liaise with the Portuguese PJ.  THe PJ tell us it was raised again later when Kate was made arguido according to the statements in the file but we don't have a record of how Kate raised that topic.

There are many reasons the translator Silvia had a conflict of interest and I have covered them as much as I can in the thread on the topic. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7864.0

The liaison officers evidence doesn't support what Kate wrote; the twins weren't mentioned. What would Silvia gain by keeping Kate's 'fears' from the GNR?

[Robittybob1]

The liaison officers evidence doesn't support what Kate wrote; the twins weren't mentioned. What would Silvia gain by keeping Kate's 'fears' from the GNR?

It is disappointing the liaison officers only mention Madeleine.  You think about it for a second, how stupid can they get asking for tests on Madeleine when Madeleine is missing?  That is so stupid it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
What would Silvia gain?  Do we know who could have drugged the kids?  Do we know who took Madeleine from her room?  Do we know who comforted the kids the night before?  Were any of the liabilities going to reflect on the OC? 
Silvia disclaims any liability, so I suspect it might be an attempt to further distance liability.  Any likelihood that it was due to criminal activity associated with Luz has the potential to lessen business in the area, and if it involved staff that were employed or formerly employed it might reflect on her staff recruiting techniques.

[Robittybob1]

The liaison officers evidence doesn't support what Kate wrote; the twins weren't mentioned. What would Silvia gain by keeping Kate's 'fears' from the GNR?

Looking at what the liaison officers say "They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

OK that could mean "used any substance" on the twins or on Madeleine "to facilitate the abduction".

[G-Unit]

It is disappointing the liaison officers only mention Madeleine.  You think about it for a second, how stupid can they get asking for tests on Madeleine when Madeleine is missing?  That is so stupid it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
What would Silvia gain?  Do we know who could have drugged the kids?  Do we know who took Madeleine from her room?  Do we know who comforted the kids the night before?  Were any of the liabilities going to reflect on the OC? 
Silvia disclaims any liability, so I suspect it might be an attempt to further distance liability.  Any likelihood that it was due to criminal activity associated with Luz has the potential to lessen business in the area, and if it involved staff that were employed or formerly employed it might reflect on her staff recruiting techniques.

Where did you get the idea that anyone asked for any tests to be done? Cite needed.

So your accusations about Silvia are pure speculation? Perhaps they should cease until you have some evidence. In fact there's no evidence that Kate mentioned her 'fears' about the twins to anyone, except her  pronouncement in her book years later as far as I know. 

[Robittybob1]

Where did you get the idea that anyone asked for any tests to be done? Cite needed.

So your accusations about Silvia are pure speculation? Perhaps they should cease until you have some evidence. In fact there's no evidence that Kate mentioned her 'fears' about the twins to anyone, except her  pronouncement in her book years later as far as I know.

OK they don't ask for tests to be done directly, but ask "have you any evidence?" which is sort of asking "have you done any tests?"  And if they haven't done tests they could go and do tests to answer the question.  It would be something to do with "who is running the investigation?".  So the British would only ask in an indirect fashion which allows for this confusion.

[G-Unit]

OK they don't ask for tests to be done directly, but ask "have you any evidence?" which is sort of asking "have you done any tests?"  And if they haven't done tests they could go and do tests to answer the question.  It would be something to do with "who is running the investigation?".  So the British would only ask in an indirect fashion which allows for this confusion.

All I say about Silvia is that she had a conflict of interest.  I then show how the conflicts could be manifestly demonstrated.  OK it is always going to be hypothetical unless she was to admit to it.  I am hoping SY or the PJ will reopen the case and question her on this aspect.
It is not too late to investigate whether there was a conflict of interest and whether it had any bearing on the case.

It's interesting to look at the question the liaison officers were replying to;

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

Answer 1;

Kate revealed that Madeleine had spoken with her in the morning of her disappearance and said that she remembered the twins had cried during the night and that she wanted to know why neither her mother or father had appeared. Kate asked herself whether this fact could have any relation with Madeleine's disappearance.

Gerry and Kate also questioned whether there was any suggestion that pointed to the use of drugs to facilitate Madeleine's abduction.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm

Answer 2;

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

Are the liaison officers saying that the McCann's questions might be a sign that the McCanns could have had
knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine? That was the question they were responding to.

[Alfie]

It's interesting to look at the question the liaison officers were replying to;

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

Answer 1;

Kate revealed that Madeleine had spoken with her in the morning of her disappearance and said that she remembered the twins had cried during the night and that she wanted to know why neither her mother or father had appeared. Kate asked herself whether this fact could have any relation with Madeleine's disappearance.

Gerry and Kate also questioned whether there was any suggestion that pointed to the use of drugs to facilitate Madeleine's abduction.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm

Answer 2;

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

Are the liaison officers saying that the McCann's questions might be a sign that the McCanns could have had
knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine? That was the question they were responding to.

Odd that you would miss out this bit from the statements

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

My reply to the question: No.[/quote]

[Robittybob1]

Yes it is confusing to answer the question with a definite No and then introduce some evidence.  So you might suggest correctly that the McCanns had some suspicion as to how the crime was committed and hence wanted answers: "During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ."
A number of questions must have been passed on to the PJ, not just these two, but a number of others as well.

[ferryman]

Odd that you would miss out this bit from the statements

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

My reply to the question: No.[/quote]

Or maybe not so odd ....

[G-Unit]

Odd that you would miss out this bit from the statements

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

My reply to the question: No.[/quote]

Perhaps because they then qualified the 'No' by adding some information which was clearly elated to the question? The answer became 'No, but.....' whatever that means.

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

My reply to the question: No.

In relation to the above I would like to mention
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm

Strangely, the questions the PJ wanted asked seem to have been changed by someone writing over the originals which seemed to be rather more specific.

[misty]

Here are links to the original Portuguese rogatory letters of request which appear to be somewhat different to the English version.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_44.jpg
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_45.jpg

[Mr Gray]

So Kate raised the possibility of drugs with the uk police in the first few day's

[Robittybob1]

Perhaps because they then qualified the 'No' by adding some information which was clearly elated to the question? The answer became 'No, but.....' whatever that means.

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

My reply to the question: No.

In relation to the above I would like to mention
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm

Strangely, the questions the PJ wanted asked seem to have been changed by someone writing over the originals which seemed to be rather more specific.

This is due to the person sticking a stick it note on the face of the Questions to the Liaison officers before it was photographed to be put onto the DVD.

The two lines finishing with the words:
 "* the possibility that the children had been
* MADELEINE's sibling twins should be subject to"

These two lines are interesting for we could attempt to complete those sentences in light of what were are told by two of the Liaison Officers.
Did the McCanns suggest "the possibility that the children had been" drugged?
Did the McCanns suggest MADELEINE's sibling twins should be subject to" forensic testing?

[Alice Purjorick]

Kate writes about it in her book, and at least two British Liaison officers that met with the McCanns admit the topic was brought up on the 5th.  It was their role to liaise with the Portuguese PJ.  THe PJ tell us it was raised again later when Kate was made arguido according to the statements in the file but we don't have a record of how Kate raised that topic.

There are many reasons the translator Silvia had a conflict of interest and I have covered them as much as I can in the thread on the topic. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7864.0

You expressed your opinion only.
You never did explain whether it was an illegal conflict of interest or a contrary to contract conflict of interest.
It has to be one or the other. If you cannot explain which one and why then it remains only your opinion.