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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1305 on: January 12, 2017, 04:17:24 PM »
You expressed your opinion only.
You never did explain whether it was an illegal conflict of interest or a contrary to contract conflict of interest.
It has to be one or the other. If you cannot explain which one and why then it remains only your opinion.
You are also allowed to have the same opinion.
I have previously posted a response to this and it was subsequently deleted, but in essence I have asked OG to re-open enquires into this aspect.  They can sort it out easier than I can.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1306 on: January 12, 2017, 06:50:26 PM »
This is due to the person sticking a stick it note on the face of the Questions to the Liaison officers before it was photographed to be put onto the DVD.

The two lines finishing with the words:
 "* the possibility that the children had been
* MADELEINE's sibling twins should be subject to"

These two lines are interesting for we could attempt to complete those sentences in light of what were are told by two of the Liaison Officers.
Did the McCanns suggest "the possibility that the children had been" drugged?
Did the McCanns suggest MADELEINE's sibling twins should be subject to" forensic testing?


I agree. It looks like José de Magalhães e Menezesthe wanted the liaison officers to be asked those questions, but they weren't. Someone changed the questions. Who and why, I wonder?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1307 on: January 12, 2017, 08:00:38 PM »
I agree. It looks like José de Magalhães e Menezesthe wanted the liaison officers to be asked those questions, but they weren't. Someone changed the questions. Who and why, I wonder?
It would have made this thread a bit more conclusive if the original questions were used.  Amazing work G-unit.
Have you got any way of answering those further questions "Who and why, I wonder?"

The note looked like it had been written by someone fluent in English.  So I'd tend to think the process was shortened by the Liaison team's management.
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Offline misty

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1308 on: January 12, 2017, 09:00:18 PM »
It would have made this thread a bit more conclusive if the original questions were used.  Amazing work G-unit.
Have you got any way of answering those further questions "Who and why, I wonder?"

The note looked like it had been written by someone fluent in English.  So I'd tend to think the process was shortened by the Liaison team's management.

The original Portuguese question about sedation & testing the twins was to be asked to Gerry McCann only.
Does that mean the PJ already had a record of Kate asking for the tests?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1309 on: January 12, 2017, 09:11:01 PM »
The original Portuguese question about sedation & testing the twins was to be asked to Gerry McCann only.
Does that mean the PJ already had a record of Kate asking for the tests?
The questionnaire was headed (halfway down page)  "Questions to Liaison officers" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_120.jpg
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1310 on: January 12, 2017, 09:12:13 PM »
It would have made this thread a bit more conclusive if the original questions were used.  Amazing work G-unit.
Have you got any way of answering those further questions "Who and why, I wonder?"

The note looked like it had been written by someone fluent in English.

Yes, I think we can agree that the note was written by a fluent English speaker, so someone in England wrote it. Their question then seems to have been asked instead of the ones in the letter of request.

Were the questions changed with the knowledge and agreement of the Portuguese? I can't find anything to tell me that.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1311 on: January 12, 2017, 09:27:04 PM »
You are also allowed to have the same opinion.
I have previously posted a response to this and it was subsequently deleted, but in essence I have asked OG to re-open enquires into this aspect. They can sort it out easier than I can.

In other words it is your opinion with nothing to substantiate it.
I suspect Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson will be reacquainted with his right eye and right arm before OG give you a definitive response.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1312 on: January 12, 2017, 09:31:25 PM »
In other words it is your opinion with nothing to substantiate it.
I suspect Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson will be reacquainted with his right eye and right arm before OG give you a definitive response.
"nothing to substantiate it" - Only if you ignore all the points I made.
I don't expect a response but I would be happy if they say that they are going to reinterview the OC and MW staff.
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Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1313 on: January 12, 2017, 09:33:34 PM »
"nothing to substantiate it" - Only if you ignore all the points I made.
I don't expect a response but I would be happy if they say that they are going to reinterview the OC and MW staff.

Think they've already been there, done that.
Unlikely that they will revisit as they are winding down and simple don't have the resources.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1314 on: January 12, 2017, 09:40:42 PM »
"nothing to substantiate it" - Only if you ignore all the points I made.
I don't expect a response but I would be happy if they say that they are going to reinterview the OC and MW staff.

It is more a question of, were the points valid in the context of what constitutes a conflict of interest as there are definitions for such.
They are not a la Humpty Dumpty [loosely translated as "it is whatever I choose it to be at the time"]
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Offline misty

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1315 on: January 12, 2017, 10:25:10 PM »
The questionnaire was headed (halfway down page)  "Questions to Liaison officers" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_120.jpg

Sorry - should have said "about" Gerry McCann only.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_45.jpg
"Em algem momento Gerald McCann referieu a possibilidade das crianca terem sido sedadas, tendo mesmo sugerido que fossem effectuados exames toxicologicos aos irmaos gemeos de Madeleine?"

"At that moment did Gerald McCann refer to the possibility of the children having been sedated, even suggesting that toxicological tests be performed on Madeleine's twin brothers?"

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1316 on: January 12, 2017, 10:48:13 PM »
That is the Portuguese version, so do you know where the translated version is in the file?
I could not find the word Toxi.... drug .... in the file called
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm I then click on
"UK POLICE LIAISON OFFICER STATEMENTS" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RESPONSE-ROGATORY.htm#rr20 in the index and that takes me to a file called "ROGATORY LETTERS OF REQUEST & RESPONSES"  and on that page is the picture of the questionnaire, but the translation of that page doesn't seem to be there. (well I couldn't find it quickly).

It is like someone has messed up in the filing.
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Offline misty

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1317 on: January 12, 2017, 11:04:07 PM »
That is the Portuguese version, so do you know where the translated version is in the file?

See post #1300.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1318 on: January 12, 2017, 11:11:22 PM »
See post #1300.
No that still does not add up.

Where is the English translation of http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_45.jpg
Where abouts is this document in the file starting from the index please?
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Offline misty

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1319 on: January 12, 2017, 11:21:20 PM »
No that still does not add up.

Where is the English translation of http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_45.jpg
Where abouts is this document in the file starting from the index please?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR2/cr2_120.jpg

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Go to Carta Rogatoria File 2.