Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Robittybob1]

It was 'butt in'.

...and NOTHING, prevented the Mccanns having their surviving children tested whilst still in Portugal.

Could you guarantee that?  It could have been against the Portuguese law.

[G-Unit]

Could you guarantee that?  It could have been against the Portuguese law.

Simple; bring them back to the UK and do it. If they could return for a christening they could have returned for that.

[Robittybob1]

Simple; bring them back to the UK and do it. If they could return for a christening they could have returned for that.

Stephen said "NOTHING, prevented the Mccanns having their surviving children tested whilst still in Portugal."

[Benice]

Could you guarantee that?  It could have been against the Portuguese law.

I don't see how the McCanns could  arrange independent testing themselves  as they would be breaking the PT secrecy laws by the necessary discussion of the case that would be inevitable when explaining their reasons for testing to hospital staff.

This was an ongoing case and IMO testing could only be arranged via the PJ - which did not happen.

As it transpired the testing that did take place found no evidence of drugs intake - either by the twins or Kate.

IMO

[faithlilly]

I don't see how the McCanns could  arrange independent testing themselves  as they would be breaking the PT secrecy laws by the necessary discussion of the case that would be inevitable when explaining their reasons for testing to hospital staff.

This was an ongoing case and IMO testing could only be arranged via the PJ - which did not happen.

As it transpired the testing that did take place found no evidence of drugs intake - either by the twins or Kate.

IMO

Didn't the testing by the McCanns take place when they were still arguidos ?

[stephen25000]

I don't see how the McCanns could  arrange independent testing themselves  as they would be breaking the PT secrecy laws by the necessary discussion of the case that would be inevitable when explaining their reasons for testing to hospital staff.

This was an ongoing case and IMO testing could only be arranged via the PJ - which did not happen.

As it transpired the testing that did take place found no evidence of drugs intake - either by the twins or Kate.

IMO

How would it break the secrecy laws ?

They could have organized it with the cooperation of the Police.

[G-Unit]

You said "NOTHING, prevented the Mccanns having their surviving children tested whilst still in Portugal."

I didn't actually, although I do agree with that statement. Control Risks were present there within a week, and could have taken samples then, if asked. Who would have known or stopped them? I was just answering your speculation about Portuguese law.

[Robittybob1]

How would it break the secrecy laws ?

They could have organized it with the cooperation of the Police.

Kate says she tried to do that but they never cooperated.  You might deny that but that is what is written down. 

I didn't actually, although I do agree with that statement. Control Risks were present there within a week, and could have taken samples then, if asked. Who would have known or stopped them? I was just answering your speculation about Portuguese law.

I must be getting tired.  I missed that.  Sorry.

[G-Unit]

I don't see how the McCanns could  arrange independent testing themselves  as they would be breaking the PT secrecy laws by the necessary discussion of the case that would be inevitable when explaining their reasons for testing to hospital staff.

This was an ongoing case and IMO testing could only be arranged via the PJ - which did not happen.

As it transpired the testing that did take place found no evidence of drugs intake - either by the twins or Kate.

IMO

All the hair samples produced negative results.
While this didn’t totally exclude the possibility that the
children had been sedated, especially given the time
that had elapsed, it meant nobody else (including the
PJ and the media) could prove otherwise
[Madeleine]

[Robittybob1]

Didn't the testing by the McCanns take place when they were still arguidos ?

But they were back in England by then.

[Benice]

Didn't the testing by the McCanns take place when they were still arguidos ?

IIRC Faith - they were back in the UK when the tests were carried out - so out of the jurisdiction of PT secrecy laws, which AFAIK do not carry any legal weight in this country.

[faithlilly]

IIRC Faith - they were back in the UK when the tests were carried out - so out of the jurisdiction of PT secrecy laws, which AFAIK do not carry any legal weight in this country.

Several times while being interviewed in the UK before the lifting of their arguidos status the couple said they couldn't talk about the investigation due to judicial secrecy.

[Benice]

All the hair samples produced negative results.
While this didn’t totally exclude the possibility that the
children had been sedated, especially given the time
that had elapsed, it meant nobody else (including the
PJ and the media) could prove otherwise
[Madeleine]

If it was a fact that it was 100%  impossible for the tests to show what had happened 5 (?) months earlier - then there would have been no point in having them in the first place.      Of course had the tests revealed positive results then no doubt some sceptics would be claiming that as proof that Kate was in the habit of giving her children drugs  IMO.

The negative results showed that not to be the case - which concurs with evidence from other people who knew them well enough to have an informed opinion.    I doubt if anyone as health conscious as Kate, that a rich tea biscuit was regarded as a major treat, would be putting even Calpol into her children's systems unless it was really necessary.

IMO

[Benice]

Several times while being interviewed in the UK before the lifting of their arguidos status the couple said they couldn't talk about the investigation due to judicial secrecy.

Do you happen to know when the testing was first revealed?  I don't know and I haven't got time to look at the moment.

Must dash now - be back later.

[faithlilly]

If it was a fact that it was 100%  impossible for the tests to show what had happened 5 (?) months earlier - then there would have been no point in having them in the first place.      Of course had the tests revealed positive results then no doubt some sceptics would be claiming that as proof that Kate was in the habit of giving her children drugs  IMO.

The negative results showed that not to be the case - which concurs with evidence from other people who knew them well enough to have an informed opinion.    I doubt if anyone as health conscious as Kate, that a rich tea biscuit was regarded as a major treat, would be putting even Calpol into her children's systems unless it was really necessary.

IMO

Short term sedation would, I believe, be impossible to detect months after the event.