Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Alfie]

Are the locals still arguidos? I believe they were given that status almost 3 years ago and very much doubt it still applies. And if OG are following the sex attacks lead why question Robert Murat, his wife and John Hill and his wife?

I don't think the locals are still arguidos but that doesn't really address my question.  why would these individuals have been made arguidos if they were not pursuing stranger abduction?  And, even if they are no longer arguidos why should that mean that stranger abduction is off the cards?  And whoever said Robert Murat, his wife and John Hill were questioned specifically about sex attacks? 
Not long ago you posited the belief that Jane Tanner had come forward with some highly significant information that meant the whole focus of the operation shifted.  Now we both know what sort of information you think she may have come forward with (years ago now btw) - which begs the question: why wasn't the person she supposedly squealed on made an arguido, if the parents were still in the frame?

[faithlilly]

I don't think the locals are still arguidos but that doesn't really address my question.  why would these individuals have been made arguidos if they were not pursuing stranger abduction?  And, even if they are no longer arguidos why should that mean that stranger abduction is off the cards?  And whoever said Robert Murat, his wife and John Hill were questioned specifically about sex attacks? 
Not long ago you posited the belief that Jane Tanner had come forward with some highly significant information that meant the whole focus of the operation shifted.  Now we both know what sort of information you think she may have come forward with (years ago now btw) - which begs the question: why wasn't the person she supposedly squealed on made an arguido, if the parents were still in the frame?

We have no idea why the men brought in your the PJ was made arguidos. Perhaps the questions they were going to be asked incriminated them in some way but weren't directly connected to the case?  You must admit that Robert Murat et al are a strange group of interviewees if you are looking at abduction though.

As to the person Tanner may or may not have 'squealed on if they are British nationals who are lawyered up that could be the reason no one has as yet been made arguidos?

I do find David Payne's disappearance fro the narrative also very interesting.

[Alfie]

We have no idea why the men brought in your the PJ was made arguidos. Perhaps the questions they were going to be asked incriminated them in some way but weren't directly connected to the case?  You must admit that Robert Murat et al are a strange group of interviewees if you are looking at abduction though.

As to the person Tanner may or may not have 'squealed on if they are British nationals who are lawyered up that could be the reason no one has as yet been made arguidos?

I do find David Payne's disappearance fro the narrative also very interesting.

Robert Murat was not connected to the McCanns so even stranger to be interviewed if it was them wot dunnit.
I think if the PJ wanted to make any of the original arguidos arguidos again I can't see what legal process would prevent them from doing so, but perhaps someone with more PT legal expertise can shed some light on this.   I would think it absolutely imperative for the individual in question to be arrested and interviewed under caution if such allegations had come to light.
As for David Payne, why should there be any focus on him?

[faithlilly]

Robert Murat was not connected to the McCanns so even stranger to be interviewed if it was them wot dunnit.
I think if the PJ wanted to make any of the original arguidos arguidos again I can't see what legal process would prevent them from doing so, but perhaps someone with more PT legal expertise can shed some light on this.   I would think it absolutely imperative for the individual in question to be arrested and interviewed under caution if such allegations had come to light.
As for David Payne, why should there be any focus on him?

Murat translated so perhaps he was being questioned in that regard?

Again UK nationals could not be made arguidos if they reside in the U.K.

As to DP I didn't say the focus was on him simply that it was strange he had been wiped from the narrative.

[Alfie]

Murat translated so perhaps he was being questioned in that regard?

Again UK nationals could not be made arguidos if they reside in the U.K.

As to .... ...... I didn't say the focus was on him simply that it was strange he had been wiped from the narrative.

1)Why would Murat being the translator shed any light on anything with regard parental involvement?  Unless you think the parents confessed to him and he forgot to translate it. 
2) So, if the Met decide the McCanns dunnit then what? 
3) In what way has DP been wiped from the narrative?  Can you give me an example of where he was in the narrative and is now no longer in the narrative?  Who did the wiping?

[faithlilly]

1)Why would Murat being the translator shed any light on anything with regard parental involvement?  Unless you think the parents confessed to him and he forgot to translate it. 
2) So, if the Met decide the McCanns dunnit then what? 
3) In what way has .... ...... been wiped from the narrative?  Can you give me an example of where he was in the narrative and is now no longer in the narrative?  Who did the wiping?

His role as a translator was simply one option. Perhaps it was linked to the fact that the Tapas friends allegedly tried to set him up?

Perhaps the fact that individuals from the Crown Prosecution service were involved at one point is relevant?

The Crimewatch programme.

[Alfie]

His role as a translator was simply one option. Perhaps it was linked to the fact that the Tapas friends allegedly tried to set him up?

Perhaps the fact that individuals from the Crown Prosecution service were involved at one point is relevant?

The Crimewatch programme.

I think you're on very dodgy ground here, the implication being (though you have previously denied it) of some sort of conspiracy involving numerous individuals.  All tremendously improbable, I'm afraid.

[faithlilly]

I think you're on very dodgy ground here, the implication being (though you have previously denied it) of some sort of conspiracy involving numerous individuals.  All tremendously improbable, I'm afraid.

That's what they said about Hillsborough.

[Alfie]

That's what they said about Hillsborough.

Rubbish.

[faithlilly]

Rubbish.

What is? That Hillsborough was a huge conspiracy involving tens of policemen ?

[Alfie]

What is? That Hillsborough was a huge conspiracy involving tens of policemen ?

That everyone thought the cover up at Hillsborough was highly improbable.  Quite the reverse was true.

[G-Unit]

That everyone thought the cover up at Hillsborough was highly improbable.  Quite the reverse was true.

The press swallowed it hook line and sinker; The Sun is still not welcome in Liverpool.

[Alfie]

The press swallowed it hook line and sinker; The Sun is still not welcome in Liverpool.

in the immediate aftermath of the event yes, but if you can provide any evidence at all of the press or of large swathes of the population who claimed a cover up was "highly improbable" in the intervening years then I'd be interested to read it.

[G-Unit]

in the immediate aftermath of the event yes, but if you can provide any evidence at all of the press or of large swathes of the population who claimed a cover up was "highly improbable" in the intervening years then I'd be interested to read it.

The fact that it took so long for the families to get action says it all. They didn't feel supported;

Upon receiving the April 2016 verdict, Hillsborough Family Support Group chair Margaret Aspinall, whose 18-year-old son James was killed in the disaster, said:
"Let's be honest about this – people were against us. We had the media against us, as well as the establishment. Everything was against us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster

[Alfie]

The fact that it took so long for the families to get action says it all. They didn't feel supported;

Upon receiving the April 2016 verdict, Hillsborough Family Support Group chair Margaret Aspinall, whose 18-year-old son James was killed in the disaster, said:
"Let's be honest about this – people were against us. We had the media against us, as well as the establishment. Everything was against us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster

This is rather off-topic but as you have been unable to provide anything to back up the cite that people believed a cover-up by the police and authorities was "highly improbable" I guess we'll just have to leave it there.