Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Eleanor]

How do you know it wasnt made the morning after - maybe that is how they came to that conclusion.

Is that IYO the bed was not made L

No Cleaner on that day.  On the numerous occasions that I stayed at Val de Lobo I never made a bed.

[Holly Goodhead]

Amaral said there were no marks indicating someone had stood on the bed under the window.   Though how they came to that conclusion is beyond me,   Kate had slept in that bed on the Wednesday night and so it was unmade.

In KM's book she tells us precisely how she found MM's bed: top right hand corners of the covers still turned over forming a triangle with Cuddle cat and the pink princess blanket where the McCanns left them. 

Surely she means top left hand corners?  Why use the word 'still'?  Perhaps I'm getting too anorakish 

Even if the bed was unmade (KM's book states she is a perfectionist not some sort of Waynetta!) the important thing is imo she does not make any mention about the bed under the window.  If any would be abductor entered via the window then surely he/she must have left some sort of indentation on the bed and debris from outside which would show on the bed whether it was made or unmade?

[Eleanor]

In KM's book she tells us precisely how she found MM's bed: top right hand corners of the covers still turned over forming a triangle with Cuddle cat and the pink princess blanket where the McCanns left them. 

Surely she means top left hand corners?  Why use the word 'still'?  Perhaps I'm getting too anorakish 

Even if the bed was unmade (KM's book states she is a perfectionist not some sort of Waynetta!) the important thing is imo she does not make any mention about the bed under the window.  If any would be abductor entered via the window then surely he/she must have left some sort of indentation on the bed and debris from outside which would show on the bed whether it was made or unmade?

Despite populist opinion there was room to enter the room from the window without stepping on that bed.

It is actually not important, so I don't understand why you think it is.

[Wonderfulspam]

Would have been a bit awkward IMO

[pathfinder73]

In KM's book she tells us precisely how she found MM's bed: top right hand corners of the covers still turned over forming a triangle with Cuddle cat and the pink princess blanket where the McCanns left them. 

Surely she means top left hand corners?  Why use the word 'still'?  Perhaps I'm getting too anorakish 

Even if the bed was unmade (KM's book states she is a perfectionist not some sort of Waynetta!) the important thing is imo she does not make any mention about the bed under the window.  If any would be abductor entered via the window then surely he/she must have left some sort of indentation on the bed and debris from outside which would show on the bed whether it was made or unmade?

----- With respect to the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when she was hot, with the bedclothes folded down. With respect to the other bed next to the window in the children's bedroom he says that it showed no signs that anyone had put their feet on it, namely, dirt or shoe prints. https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

[barrier]

----- With respect to the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when she was hot, with the bedclothes folded down. With respect to the other bed next to the window in the children's bedroom he says that it showed no signs that anyone had put their feet on it, namely, dirt or shoe prints. https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Which is consistent with no one using the window for egress or access.

[Robittybob1]

Which is consistent with no one using the window for egress or access.

It was quite observant of Gerry to note this.    So am I right in thinking Gerry would not have agreed with Kate's impression that an abduction occurred using the window?

[Eleanor]

It was quite observant of Gerry to note this.    So am I right in thinking Gerry would not have agreed with Kate's impression that an abduction occurred using the window?

Using The Window in what way?

[barrier]

It was quite observant of Gerry to note this.    So am I right in thinking Gerry would not have agreed with Kate's impression that an abduction occurred using the window?

Well according to Mitchell Kate and Gerry are of the view that some one got into the apartment and left through the window as their means of escape.

[Robittybob1]

Using The Window in what way?

As the portal of entry especially (as ones feet would possibly be dusty) or even exit because as Gerry had figured no one had stepped on the bed.
Maybe stepping on the bed wasn't essential.  There is that photo of a PJ person climbing through the window.  Is he stepping onto the bed?

[barrier]

As the portal of entry especially (as ones feet would possibly be dusty) or even exit because as Gerry had figured no one had stepped on the bed.
Maybe stepping on the bed wasn't essential.  There is that photo of a PJ person climbing through the window.  Is he stepping onto the bed?

If this mysteron who supposedly abducted used the window why the heck would he do that with a risk of being stuck when there was a perfectly serviceable and open patio door especially if the blighter was supposedly watching  the apartment.

[Robittybob1]

If this mysteron who supposedly abducted used the window why the heck would he do that with a risk of being stuck when there was a perfectly serviceable and open patio door especially if the blighter was supposedly watching  the apartment.

There are about 10 different theories all getting jumbled up here. 
1. Did the intruder prepare by watching?
2. Did the intruder actually go in the night before?
3. Did the intruder use the window?
4. Did the intruder use the patio door?
5. Did the intruder have a copy of the front door key?
6. Did the abductor not need to go in as Madeleine woke and wandered?
 and more if I wanted to recall all of them.
PS:
7. Did the person open the window and abandon the attempt when a child woke up?
8. Did Madeleine leave via the front door when she heard someone coming in through the patio door?
9.  Did Gerry take Madeleine around 9:15 or so?
10  Did Kate fake the abduction scene?

[barrier]

There are about 10 different theories all getting jumbled up here. 
Did the intruder prepare by watching?
Did the intruder actually go in the night before?
Did the intruder use the window?
Did the intruder use the patio door?
Did the intruder have a copy of the front door key?
Did the abductor not need to go in as Madeleine woke and wandered?
 and more if I wanted to recall all of them.

One more and the most important of all,was there a intruder? no one has got past first base yet,that includes the PJ and SY.

[Wonderfulspam]

As the portal of entry especially (as ones feet would possibly be dusty) or even exit because as Gerry had figured no one had stepped on the bed.
Maybe stepping on the bed wasn't essential.  There is that photo of a PJ person climbing through the window.  Is he stepping onto the bed?

Yes, perhaps not, if the abductor had incredibly long legs.

[Robittybob1]

One more and the most important of all,was there a intruder? no one has got past first base yet,that includes the PJ and SY.

I added 4 more to get to the 10.

"7. Did the person open the window and abandon the attempt when a child woke up?
8. Did Madeleine leave via the front door when she heard someone coming in through the patio door?
9.  Did Gerry take Madeleine around 9:15 or so?
10  Did Kate fake the abduction scene?"