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Offline John

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2017, 01:58:00 PM »
I'd agree with that, John, but I find that his simplistic and bombastic approach is more likely to achieve the opposite, IMO. He could have approached the issue in a much quieter fashion by simply ensuring that tabs were kept on current people travelling in or through the US, as well as on refugees, then announcing, once the reviews had been conducted, that the rules had changed.

He didn't do that though, did he? All it appears to have achieved is a perception of anti-Muslim rhetoric.

Does he really think that ISIS will simply go away and sit on a naughty step?

Will it protect the US from pre-existing sleeper cells?

Will it protect US citizens travelling abroad (and anyone else with them) from being primary targets?

Do you seriously think that ISIS won't use it to recruit more radical nutjobs?

Trump is out to destroy Daesh so watch this space.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposť of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2017, 01:59:48 PM »
The US has woken up at last to the terrible reality that they cannot keep taking the world's refugees indefinitely.  People might not realise it yet but a new world order is about to be created.
Ah, the Neuordnung.  And how do you envisage the world to be in this glorious new order? 

Offline John

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2017, 02:01:19 PM »
Ah, the Neuordnung.  And how do you envisage the world to be in this glorious new order?

Heaven knows but the old ways of doing business are about to crumble to dust.  Trump is going in hard and then taking stock, a well tried and tested technique. Interesting times!
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposť of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2017, 02:01:57 PM »
I can't for the life of me imagine why Donald Trump would want stronger vetting of travelers from, let's say...

Syria.....

I mean, they've only been teeming with ISIS & in the grip of a nasty civil war for the past 5 years...

Who is "they"?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2017, 02:08:28 PM »
Who is "they"?

Ok, then  'it'.

Syria.

How about Yemen...

An on going civil war, several regions held by Al-Qaeda & ISIL.

Nope, can't see any threat there....
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Offline Carana

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2017, 02:09:59 PM »
The US has woken up at last to the terrible reality that they cannot keep taking the world's refugees indefinitely.  People might not realise it yet but a new world order is about to be created.

Is it safe to assume that you're not Jewish, John?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2017, 02:14:05 PM »


Somalia......Civil war since 1990....

Occuppied by Al Shabaab...afiliated with Alqaeda....
Free Christian Brueckner.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2017, 02:18:21 PM »


Libya....civil war, since 2011, has areas occupied by ISIL....
Free Christian Brueckner.

Alfie

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Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2017, 02:18:43 PM »
This anti-Trump petition is going up by hundreds every few seconds,it's incredible!  No state visit for Trump, let him in, but deny him access to the Queen and all the pomp the pompous prick revels in
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2017, 02:20:35 PM »
This anti-Trump petition is going up by hundreds every few seconds,it's incredible!  No state visit for Trump, let him in, but deny him access to the Queen and all the pomp the pompous prick revels in
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

ISIS supporting traitors petition.
Free Christian Brueckner.

Offline Carana

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2017, 02:21:07 PM »
Ok, then  'it'.

Syria.

How about Yemen...

An on going civil war, several regions held by Al-Qaeda & ISIL.

Nope, can't see any threat there....

What are you advocating? Support for dictatorships?

A classified document, seen by Sky News, says Syrian government forces have "ethnically cleansed swathes of Syria" with help from their partners Russia and Iran.

http://news.sky.com/story/syria-ethnic-cleansing-claim-amid-fears-for-two-million-kettled-in-idlib-10746424

Are you ok with that?

Offline Carana

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2017, 02:23:54 PM »
This anti-Trump petition is going up by hundreds every few seconds,it's incredible!  No state visit for Trump, let him in, but deny him access to the Queen and all the pomp the pompous prick revels in
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

I doubt that a petitition based on "misogyny and vulgarity" is likely to pull much weight...

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2017, 02:24:39 PM »
What are you advocating? Support for dictatorships?

A classified document, seen by Sky News, says Syrian government forces have "ethnically cleansed swathes of Syria" with help from their partners Russia and Iran.

http://news.sky.com/story/syria-ethnic-cleansing-claim-amid-fears-for-two-million-kettled-in-idlib-10746424

Are you ok with that?

I don't lose any sleep over it.
Free Christian Brueckner.

Offline Carana

Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2017, 02:30:29 PM »
I don't lose any sleep over it.

You don't lose any sleep over ethnic cleansing? Or large quantities of innocent people, including children, left without food, water, shelter or medicine?

How is that kind of attitude likely to promote greater stability?

Alfie

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Re: Trump signs Executive Order banning certain foreign nationals from US.
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2017, 02:33:34 PM »
I doubt that a petitition based on "misogyny and vulgarity" is likely to pull much weight...
It's going to have to get a response from government and there are already calls from the leaders of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP calling for the same thing.  Not that it will have any effect and we'll still have to suffer the ignominy of that pompous ass being treated to the full works, including (he has requested) playing golf at Balmoral while the Queen has to watch.  It's all rather obscene... @)(++(*