Author Topic: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.  (Read 269951 times)

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Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1170 on: February 08, 2017, 03:30:10 PM »
It's not perfect but the nearest equivalent.
You're making it up, unless you can provide a cite that such a status exists in law, to describe someone who has been investigated many years ago for a crime and no charges brought, ie: neither innocent, nor guilty but...?

Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1171 on: February 08, 2017, 03:35:30 PM »

maybe back under suspicion ............ 8((()*/

Not anywhere in the civilised world ... and one suspects not even in Portugal.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1172 on: February 08, 2017, 03:35:41 PM »
Presumption of innocence is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.  Not considered a little bit dodgy, or hmmm...I bet they're not letting on the whole story or haha they failed to prove their innocence.  Considered innocent until proven guilty The onus is not on anyone to prove their innocence, it should go without saying that in law one IS innocent until proven otherwise.  It seems the PT Judiciary don't understand this concept.

Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1173 on: February 08, 2017, 03:36:58 PM »
Only a problem for the mCcanns, who are in this position,  not for the rest of us.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1174 on: February 08, 2017, 03:38:22 PM »
Only a problem for the mCcanns, not for the rest of us.
And for you and your family if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of Portuguese justice. 

Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1175 on: February 08, 2017, 03:38:35 PM »
There is a big difference between proved innocent and presumption of innocence.

The archiving report proved the McCanns innocent of neglect in Portuguese law, to all intents and purposes, irrespective of what others might think.

The McCanns are entitled to a presumption of innocence in anything more serious re Madeleine's disappearance, but such a presumption does not prove them innocent.

If a suspect is investigated and is released without charge and suspect status removed ... that person is innocent.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1176 on: February 08, 2017, 03:39:28 PM »
Only a problem for the mCcanns, who are in this position,  not for the rest of us.

So long as you don't come under scrutiny of Portuguese Law.  Unfortunately The Portuguese People do.

Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1177 on: February 08, 2017, 03:39:38 PM »
And for you and your family if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of Portuguese justice.

Portugal is not a place I shall ever visit.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1178 on: February 08, 2017, 03:40:19 PM »
Portugal is not a place I shall ever visit.

Very wise, if you ask me.

Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1179 on: February 08, 2017, 03:42:05 PM »
Portugal is not a place I shall ever visit.
Me neither, especially not now.  What a dump.

Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1180 on: February 08, 2017, 03:43:15 PM »
And for you and your family if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of Portuguese justice.

In most places in the world the law is dictated by precedent.  In Portugal are the McCanns unique in having the law tailored to disadvantage solely them in yet another unique aspect of Madeleine's case?
In my opinion this verdict stinks to high heaven.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1181 on: February 08, 2017, 03:44:04 PM »
Presumption of innocence is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.  Not considered a little bit dodgy, or hmmm...I bet they're not letting on the whole story or haha they failed to prove their innocence.  Considered innocent until proven guilty The onus is not on anyone to prove their innocence, it should go without saying that in law one IS innocent until proven otherwise.  It seems the PT Judiciary don't understand this concept.
I think the PT Judiciary understand Portuguese law better than the rest of us on the forum stuck together.

They ruled against the McCann claim.  This does not make the McCanns guilty of anything, other than perhaps choosing a poor course of action.
What's up, old man?

Offline xtina

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1182 on: February 08, 2017, 03:44:39 PM »
Presumption of innocence is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.  Not considered a little bit dodgy, or hmmm...I bet they're not letting on the whole story or haha they failed to prove their innocence.  Considered innocent until proven guilty The onus is not on anyone to prove their innocence, it should go without saying that in law one IS innocent until proven otherwise.  It seems the PT Judiciary don't understand this concept.


that is in a court of law ............

where they have not been yet ....

according to them ....maddie was abducted ...

accordion to G A she wasn't

GA .....won the right to say maddie was not abducted ......tdah
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1183 on: February 08, 2017, 03:46:46 PM »
I think the PT Judiciary understand Portuguese law better than the rest of us on the forum stuck together.

They ruled against the McCann claim.  This does not make the McCanns guilty of anything, other than perhaps choosing a poor course of action.

Too right.
Not only do we have armchair detectives, but we have armchair advocates as well . What a hoot   @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1184 on: February 08, 2017, 03:48:28 PM »
The judgement (unless poorly translated) seems to suggest that Amaral was within his rights to express his opinion in his books because his right to freedom of expression trumped the McCanns' right to a not be libelled and in any case  the McCanns had not been proven innocent, so there.  What a load of cobblers.