Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.

[G-Unit]

In the 'Sun'.

'Mccann's not in the Clear'.

Is this a first?

''Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, did not want to respond to the judges’ findings last night.

A spokesman said: “It’s entirely a matter for their lawyers.”''

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2819783/removal-of-kate-and-gerrys-formal-suspect-status-does-not-mean-they-are-innocent-in-disappearance-of-daughter-madeleine-mccann-judges-say/

[G-Unit]

No you don't.

I do though and I don't appreciate being told I am abnormal.

I wouldn't know, I didn't say it. 

[Erngath]

I wouldn't know, I didn't say it. 

No but we know who did.

[G-Unit]

No but we know who did.

No point in being sensitive on this forum. I've been called all sorts. I suggest you take it up with the one who said it, that's what I do.

[Erngath]

No point in being sensitive on this forum. I've been called all sorts. I suggest you take it up with the one who said it, that's what I do.

I think she has gone for the day.
I'm sure she will explain her remark later.

[carlymichelle]

mcanns  NOT  cleared

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2819783/removal-of-kate-and-gerrys-formal-suspect-status-does-not-mean-they-are-innocent-in-disappearance-of-daughter-madeleine-mccann-judges-say/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-_-20170208-_-803548825


KATE and Gerry McCann face fresh heartache after judges said they had not been cleared over daughter Madeleine’s disappearance.

Portugal’s Supreme Court has said the removal of their “arguido” — or formal suspect — status should not be “equated to proof of innocence”.
Kate and Gerry McCann
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The removal of Kate and Gerry McCann’s ‘formal suspect’ status does not mean they are innocent in their daughter’s disappearance, judges have said

The country’s most senior judges claimed the investigation into them was only shelved in 2008 because of a lack of evidence.

And they said there were “serious concerns” over the theory that Madeleine had been abducted from their Ocean Club apartment in Praia da Luz, in May 2007.

The comments were made in the Supreme Court’s 76-page dossier after handing victory to ex-detective Goncalo Amaral in an ongoing libel case last week.
Madeleine McCann
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Portugal’s top judges cast doubt over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, claiming there are ‘serious concerns’ with abduction theory

The McCanns got Amaral’s book The Truth of the Lie banned and sued for libel after he alleged they faked Madeleine’s abduction to cover up the then three-year-old’s death.

But he is writing a second book about Madeleine’s disappearance — and the McCanns have said they will sue again if it is published in Britain.

Kate and Gerry, both 48, were made arguidos in September 2007. But their status was lifted in July 2008 when Portuguese police archived the investigation.
Kate and Gerry McCann
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The McCanns had The Truth of the Lie book banned after it alleged they faked their daughter’s abduction to cover up her death
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Madeleine McCann disappeared in Portugal in 2007 whilst on holiday with her family aged three

The Supreme Court is Portugal’s highest court but has no criminal authority. It published its ruling yesterday.

Judges added their job was not to decide if the McCanns bore any criminal responsibility over Madeleine’s disappearance.
Kate and Gerry McCann
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Portugal’s judges claimed investigation into Kate and Gerry McCann was only shelved in 2008 due to a lack of evidence

And they said it would be wrong to draw any inferences about the couple’s guilt or innocence from their ruling.

Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, did not want to respond to the judges’ findings last night.

A spokesman said: “It’s entirely a matter for their lawyers.”
Lisa Riley recalls visit to Praia Da Luz to investigate Madeleine McCann's disappearance






soo all these years supporters were  wrong???

[Mr Gray]

its  all a dogs dinner and I'm not surprised the McCanns do not wish to comment.

Barry George has had two  trials...has he been cleared...has he been proved innocent.
The word cleared does not have a strict legal definition
Proof has three definitions

That's why I can say.....There is proof of Barry Georges innocence   and I can say his innocence has not been proved

[carlymichelle]

its  all a dogs dinner and I'm not surprised the McCanns do not wish to comment.

Barry George has had two  trials...has he been cleared...has he been proved innocent.
The word cleared does not have a strict legal definition
Proof has three definitions

That's why I can say.....There is proof of Barry Georges innocence   and I can say his innocence has not been proved

well the uk media  is reporting it  do you  realise how huge that  is?? they wouldnt of been able to print it if it  wasnt  true   so you can believe what   you like

[Mr Gray]

well the uk media  is reporting it  do you  realise how huge that  is??

perhaps because the public aren't too bright. .......the way things are going their could be another libel action against uk papers

The family of ben  Needham have never been cleared and they were suspects originally

[carlymichelle]

perhaps because the public aren't too bright. .......the way things are going their could be another libel action against uk papers

The family of ben  Needham have never been cleared and they were suspects originally

the mcanns cant sue for   the papers telling the truth it  is a court  ruling

[carlymichelle]

perhaps because the public aren't too bright. .......the way things are going their could be another libel action against uk papers

The family of ben  Needham have never been cleared and they were suspects originally

the public has nothing to do with it the courts  do

[Robittybob1]

perhaps because the public aren't too bright. .......the way things are going their could be another libel action against uk papers

The family of ben  Needham have never been cleared and they were suspects originally

As I read it, even though the PT Supreme Court is saying the McCanns are not cleared they are not saying anything about whether they are innocent or guilty.  The two issues are separate.

[G-Unit]

As I read it, even though the PT Supreme Court is saying the McCanns are not cleared they are not saying anything about whether they are innocent or guilty.  The two issues are separate.

Not cleared by the archiving dispatch is what they said. The McCanns said it cleared them but it didn't. As you say, they made no comment about the McCann's guilt ot innocence. How could they? The crime wasn't able to be identified, let alone who committed it.

[carlymichelle]

Not cleared by the archiving dispatch is what they said. The McCanns said it cleared them but it didn't. As you say, they made no comment about the McCann's guilt ot innocence. How could they? The crime wasn't able to be identified, let alone who committed it.

so in other words the mcanns are still suspects

[G-Unit]

so in other words the mcanns are still suspects

If the McCanns were ever arrested and tried they would benefit from the presumption of innocence just like any other person put on trial.

The defendants in the Stephen Lawrence case never lost that right before the law. Even so, on 14 February 1997, the Daily Mail newspaper labelled all five suspects "murderers". The headline read, "Murderers: The Mail accuses these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us."

I expect the McCanns would sue if a newspaper printed something like that about them, but they can't sue them for saying the McCanns weren't cleared by the archiving dispatch because they weren't. Just like the McCanns, those newspapers who reported them cleared by the archiving dispatch got it wrong.