Author Topic: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?  (Read 54630 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #405 on: March 03, 2017, 10:04:47 AM »
It makes no difference what the remit was or when it was drawn up because the files and all the known information remain the same.     If there was evidence in those files which pointed to the McCanns  SY would have found it.   

 It is obvious that they have found no reasons to suspect the McCanns, -  unless of course a massive conspiracy has been agreed/undertaken by the SY team - and they are all corrupt policemen.

It seems to me that some people would actually prefer that to be the case - rather than accept the fact that neither the McCanns nor their friends are suspects or persons of interest.

Very sad.
IMO

The whole point is Benice, there is a major lack of evidence, and no matter some people may bluster to the contrary, the crime, if one happened, is not determined.
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Offline Benice

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #406 on: March 03, 2017, 10:28:10 AM »
The whole point is Benice, there is a major lack of evidence, and no matter some people may bluster to the contrary, the crime, if one happened, is not determined.

You have missed the point.    What has any of that got to do with my post regarding the 'remit' undertaken by SY and the fact that no matter what that remit was - the files and info available to SY remain exactly the same.

If evidence had come to light from those files which pointed the finger at the McCanns - then how do you think SY would have dealt with that information?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #407 on: March 03, 2017, 10:32:52 AM »
While we are all playing the old "well if a sewing machine had bigger wheels it might be a car" game, how about this for an idea:
The Met say one thing and The PJ say something different............  then what?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #408 on: March 03, 2017, 11:27:53 AM »
I looked at the remit last year and it looked like it was drawn up about 6 months after the start of the review

stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #409 on: March 03, 2017, 11:39:39 AM »
You have missed the point.    What has any of that got to do with my post regarding the 'remit' undertaken by SY and the fact that no matter what that remit was - the files and info available to SY remain exactly the same.

If evidence had come to light from those files which pointed the finger at the McCanns - then how do you think SY would have dealt with that information?

SY had only one remit, abduction.

There is no indication they have interviewed the McCann's or their companions at the time.

The 'investigation' for want of a better term, will be closed shortly, without the cause of Madeleine's disappearance being known, or her fate determined.

I have said on many occasions, the only thing likely to solve this case is a confession, and I cannot see that happening.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #410 on: March 03, 2017, 12:25:21 PM »
@)(++(* well there's a surprise.  so basically it doesn't really matter what the police say you're sticking to your guns, right?

No, as usual you have put words into my mouth. A bald statement from OG saying they have concluded that Madeleine was abducted is not acceptable. More detail would be needed to make it worthy of consideration.
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Offline barrier

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #411 on: March 03, 2017, 12:35:27 PM »
So you have made a statement as fact that you cannot support so it is merely your opinion

Like any one that claims an abduction,it is only an opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #412 on: March 03, 2017, 12:36:43 PM »
Like any one that claims an abduction,it is only an opinion.
So your claim re the remit is simply your opinion

Alfie

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #413 on: March 03, 2017, 01:01:49 PM »
No, as usual you have put words into my mouth. A bald statement from OG saying they have concluded that Madeleine was abducted is not acceptable. More detail would be needed to make it worthy of consideration.
Not acceptable to you maybe, and why on earth should OG give you any details at all to try and convince you of their conclusions?  Isn't it true that if as is likely OG conclude that in all likelihood Madeleine was abducted that you and many fellow sceptics will view this not as confirmation of the McCanns' uninvolvement in Madeleine's disappearance but as some sort of coded message that the Met couldn't find enough evidence to pin it on them?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #414 on: March 03, 2017, 01:15:19 PM »
Not acceptable to you maybe, and why on earth should OG give you any details at all to try and convince you of their conclusions?  Isn't it true that if as is likely OG conclude that in all likelihood Madeleine was abducted that you and many fellow sceptics will view this not as confirmation of the McCanns' uninvolvement in Madeleine's disappearance but as some sort of coded message that the Met couldn't find enough evidence to pin it on them?

Were a crime committed it was committed in Portugal where The MPS have no jurisdiction.
The Portuguese Police are, we are lead to believe, conducting their own investigation. That is the one which will hold sway.
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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #415 on: March 03, 2017, 01:29:22 PM »
Not acceptable to you maybe, and why on earth should OG give you any details at all to try and convince you of their conclusions?  Isn't it true that if as is likely OG conclude that in all likelihood Madeleine was abducted that you and many fellow sceptics will view this not as confirmation of the McCanns' uninvolvement in Madeleine's disappearance but as some sort of coded message that the Met couldn't find enough evidence to pin it on them?

Not just me, Alfie. The relevant question is why shouldn't OG release a detailed explanation of how and why they have reached their conclusions? They promised to be open and transparent so it's quite reasonable for people to expect and be given a full explanation.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #416 on: March 03, 2017, 01:33:19 PM »
Not just me, Alfie. The relevant question is why shouldn't OG release a detailed explanation of how and why they have reached their conclusions? They promised to be open and transparent so it's quite reasonable for people to expect and be given a full explanation.

They also said they would not be providing a running commentary.  Very appropriate in my opinion, for a criminal investigation involving a missing child.
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #417 on: March 03, 2017, 01:40:01 PM »
They also said they would not be providing a running commentary.  Very appropriate in my opinion, for a criminal investigation involving a missing child.

Yet there was a running commentary when people were being nterviwed or re-interviewed in Portugal .

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #418 on: March 03, 2017, 01:41:31 PM »
They also said they would not be providing a running commentary.  Very appropriate in my opinion, for a criminal investigation involving a missing child.

if maddie  was alive she would  be nearly  14 so not a child she isnt 3  anymore

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #419 on: March 03, 2017, 01:51:16 PM »


I don't recall making any comment one way or another about what the Portuguese Attorney General thinks. My post was 'bout which set of rozzers was top of the 'eap like wiv respect to this 'tic'lar 'vestigation.
That's the second time time you have done that recently to my posts whilst protesting there is nothing wrong with your comprehensional skills....................... &%+((£
I am here neither to denigrate the Drs McCann nor support Sr Amaral. Nor waste my time banging on about things I don't stand a hope in hell of changing. I am here to poke fun at supporters who refuse to see the wood for the trees.
Now if you and your cohorts don't like that, tuff but don't put words in my mouth, and if it is not to forum rules no doubt I will be lobbed out.

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