Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?

[pathfinder73]

Do you think there was an unbroken stream of individuals passing through the car park keeping continual eyeball contact on the McCann children's window?

The abductor in Cleveland opened windows.  He was picked up by the CCTV camera doing so.

Madeleine's bedroom window was open; no-one in the apartment legitimately opened it.  Just as there is no explanation for the windows in Cleveland to be opened and closed ... there is no explanation why Madeleine's window was found to be open after Madeleine was found to be gone.

Something along the lines of it being noted in retrospect that Madeleine's bedroom door was positioned differently between checks, despite no-one legitimately within the apartment moving it.

Somebody would notice shutters raised and that open window and if locked it had to be opened from the inside so you look for evidence there and evidence was found. Jane passed through that car park at around 9:40 and Russell 5 minutes after. They saw and heard nowt. It wasn't long after that Kate went to the apartment and found the window was open. Must have been a lucky night as they did more checks that night than any other. That abductor must love a challenge 

[Alice Purjorick]

Do you think there was an unbroken stream of individuals passing through the car park keeping continual eyeball contact on the McCann children's window?

The abductor in Cleveland opened windows.  He was picked up by the CCTV camera doing so.

Madeleine's bedroom window was open; no-one in the apartment legitimately opened it.  Just as there is no explanation for the windows in Cleveland to be opened and closed ... there is no explanation why Madeleine's window was found to be open after Madeleine was found to be gone.

Something along the lines of it being noted in retrospect that Madeleine's bedroom door was positioned differently between checks, despite no-one legitimately within the apartment moving it.

I can't find that amongst the  FBI, Cleveland PD and Clevaland media stuff will you post it please ?

[Alfie]

Somebody would notice shutters raised and that open window and if locked it had to be opened from the inside so you look for evidence there and evidence was found. Jane passed through that car park at around 9:40 and Russell 5 minutes after. They saw and heard nowt. It wasn't long after that Kate went to the apartment and found the window was open. Must have been a lucky night as they did more checks that night than any other. That abductor must love a challenge 

which do you think is more of a challenge - a stranger abducting a child from an unlocked unattended apartment, or a father disposing of a corpse in the middle of a holiday resort at 10pm and inventing an abuduction plot with the co-operation of his wife?

[pathfinder73]

which do you think is more of a challenge - a stranger abducting a child from an unlocked unattended apartment, or a father disposing of a corpse in the middle of a holiday resort at 10pm and inventing an abuduction plot with the co-operation of his wife?

I follow evidence and the only credible evidence of an abductor is Smithman. A partner in crime would explain the moving door (Madeleine being asleep in the same position according to her father and the door had moved) so probably more than one is involved for a door to keep moving. So your looking for at least two being involved Alfie. Put your thinking cap on...........

[Robittybob1]

Are they not just as likely to have opened the patio door wider - a much more likely mode of entry than a window ?

Only if they don't have a key.

[pathfinder73]

Only if they don't have a key.

If a key was used they could have locked the patio door and kept the checkers out and used the same door to exit - it was the safer exit being hidden behind the wall. To waste time, risk leaving evidence and put yourself in more danger by raising noisy shutters and opening a window which anyone could see is a nonsensical theory if you had a KEY.

[Brietta]

If a key was used they could have locked the patio door and kept the checkers out and used the same door to exit - it was the safer exit being hidden behind the wall. To waste time, risk leaving evidence and put yourself in more danger by raising noisy shutters and opening a window which anyone could see is a nonsensical theory if you had a KEY.

Not if you didn't want anyone to know you had a key.

[Robittybob1]

Not if you didn't want anyone to know you had a key.

That could be an important issue.

[Lace]

What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist and the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?   He could have opened the window as a precaution in case he was cornered and having opened it just before Kate checked no one would have noticed it open when passing,   the apartment wouldn't have been too cold either for the twins to wake up.

[stephen25000]

What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist and the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?   He could have opened the window as a precaution in case he was cornered and having opened it just before Kate checked no one would have noticed it open when passing,   the apartment wouldn't have been too cold either for the twins to wake up.

We have been told not to post opinion as fact Lace.

An 'abductor' is not a fact.

[Robittybob1]

We have been told not to post opinion as fact Lace.

An 'abductor' is not a fact.

Lace doesn't claim it was a fact.  It was simply a proposal. a "what if".

[stephen25000]

Lace doesn't claim it was a fact.  It was simply a proposal. a "what if".

Read again.

[Robittybob1]

Read again.

"What if" and "could have"; the post is not describing a fact but a hypothetical scenario.

[G-Unit]

"What if" and "could have"; the post is not describing a fact but a hypothetical scenario.

The 'what if' is in connection to Smithman. The 'could have in in connection to the abductor's actions, not his existence.

[Robittybob1]

Incorrect.

Lace asked: "What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist and the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?"  That "what if" applies to both statements
"What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist"  and what if the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?"