Author Topic: One enduring myth.  (Read 42786 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2017, 07:34:05 PM »
Can we get back to the topic of this thread which is why "truthseekers" have such a high tolerance for this particular myth and why it seems to have become established fact despite the complete lack of evidence that the McCanns sedated their children to go out and get drunk?

Well, as the children were never tested, we will never know.

Some won't believe they were drugged, some will.

That's about the nub of it.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2017, 07:38:14 PM »
So why didn't K&G simply think, Madeleine has got colic, no real treatment, she'll grow out of it?

P29.  How Kate and Gerry suffered.  Tough on Madeleine.

If you could give the whole post in context I could explain it to you.....posting one sentence out of context is.....pointless

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2017, 08:00:28 PM »
If you could give the whole post in context I could explain it to you.....posting one sentence out of context is.....pointless
I can understand English without anyone's interpretation.

You have the cite.

Look it up for yourself.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2017, 08:01:44 PM »
I can understand English without anyone's interpretation.

You have the cite.

Look it up for yourself.

then tell us your point....you seem to be questioning both their medical skills

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2017, 08:15:55 PM »
then tell us your point....you seem to be questioning both their medical skills
I can recognise colic.

I know what the treatment is/or is not for colic.

P29 Kate and Gerry seem bewildered by a simple case of colic.
What's up, old man?

Offline G-Unit

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2017, 08:17:32 PM »
Can we get back to the topic of this thread which is why "truthseekers" have such a high tolerance for this particular myth and why it seems to have become established fact despite the complete lack of evidence that the McCanns sedated their children to go out and get drunk?

It's not the only enduring myth of course; there's the abduction which some seem to think is an established fact, and lots of people believed the McCanns had been cleared of something too.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2017, 08:19:16 PM »
I can recognise colic.

I know what the treatment is/or is not for colic.

P29 Kate and Gerry seem bewildered by a simple case of colic.

well obviously you have a superior knowledge of medicine than Kate or Gerry....or think you do

Alfie

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2017, 08:24:06 PM »
It's not the only enduring myth of course; there's the abduction which some seem to think is an established fact, and lots of people believed the McCanns had been cleared of something too.
I didn't claim it was the ONLY enduring myth and the rest of your post is simple deflection.  How about adressing the topic instead?

Alfie

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2017, 08:26:27 PM »
I can understand English without anyone's interpretation.

You have the cite.

Look it up for yourself.
What is the relevance of your cite to the subject of this thread?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2017, 08:43:39 PM »
I can recognise colic.

I know what the treatment is/or is not for colic.

P29 Kate and Gerry seem bewildered by a simple case of colic.

when you "recognise" colic do you rule out.....

Differential Diagnoses
Bronchiolitis
Emergent Management of Acute Otitis Media
 Bacterial Meningitis
Intussusception
Pediatric Aseptic Meningitis
Pediatric Gastroesophageal Reflux
Pediatric Pneumonia
Protein Intolerance
Soy Protein Intolerance

this is only a partial list....I think you should stick to being an amateur detective rather than an amateur doctor...you will cause less harm as the former
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2017, 08:53:50 PM »
Can we get back to the topic of this thread which is why "truthseekers" have such a high tolerance for this particular myth and why it seems to have become established fact despite the complete lack of evidence that the McCanns sedated their children to go out and get drunk?

Madeleine was screaming the house down on TUE from a witness that lived above so that rules out sedation up until 1 May 2007 but the following day a cot was seen by another witness in the parents bedroom (possibly the wonky legged one) and that night Kate slept in the kids bedroom. And Fiona's interview:

"She (KM) kept going into the twins, she kept putting her hands on the twins to check they were breathing, she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay. But they were okay, I mean, they were fine, they didn't, they were asleep, but at the time it did seem weird, I remember thinking, you know, when the Police came they turned the lights on, there was loads of noise, obviously from the moment Kate discovered that Madeleine was gone, the screaming and the shouting and there was a lot of noise and they, they didn't, you know, so much as blink'."


Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfie

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2017, 08:58:22 PM »
Madeleine was screaming the house down on TUE from a witness that lived above so that rules out sedation up until 1 May 2007 but the following day a cot was seen by another witness in the parents bedroom (possibly the wonky legged one) and that night Kate slept in the kids bedroom. And Fiona's interview:

"She (KM) kept going into the twins, she kept putting her hands on the twins to check they were breathing, she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay. But they were okay, I mean, they were fine, they didn't, they were asleep, but at the time it did seem weird, I remember thinking, you know, when the Police came they turned the lights on, there was loads of noise, obviously from the moment Kate discovered that Madeleine was gone, the screaming and the shouting and there was a lot of noise and they, they didn't, you know, so much as blink'."


Can we have a cite for "Madeleine was screaming the house down on Tuesday night" and then can you address the thread topic, ta.

ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2017, 09:00:20 PM »
I can recognise colic.

I know what the treatment is/or is not for colic.

P29 Kate and Gerry seem bewildered by a simple case of colic.

Bewildered?

Perhaps it's a translation thing.

I read that page and my impression is Kate describing her distress at witnessing her daughter's distress at a distressing (but not usually dangerous) childhood malady that afflicted Madeleine in her infant years.

Personally, I don't read anything more into that page than that.

The page certainly doesn't explain the enduring myth.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2017, 09:01:59 PM »
What is the relevance of your cite to the subject of this thread?
I do believe we are dancing around this quote from your OP.

"that the McCanns drugged their children"

Hopefully, I have not ended up in yet another doggies+Grime thread.  My life is ticking away relentlessly.   8((()*/
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2017, 09:04:26 PM »
Can we have a cite for "Madeleine was screaming the house down on Tuesday night" and then can you address the thread topic, ta.

I've addressed it. Pamela Fenn was the witness above.

"The tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted 'Daddy, Daddy', the witness had no doubt that the noise came from the floor below."
"She also said that she never told the McCann's that she had heard their daughter crying previously on 1st May because she thought it would just increase their suffering."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.