So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?

[ShiningInLuz]

cite.

Read the remit.

[Alfie]

Read the remit.

I have - it does not state "the parents are off limits" anywhere in the remit, so unless you have another version of the remit I have not seen you must clearly be mistaken.

[Mr Gray]

Read the remit.

does it say the tapas group are off limits too....it doesnt does it

[Robittybob1]

Where does one get to see the Operation Grange remit?  It seems we all need to read it again.

[Alfie]

"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1. 

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’.  This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

End "

[ShiningInLuz]

"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1. 

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’.  This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

End "

As I said, the McCanns are off limits.

[barrier]

Where does one get to see the Operation Grange remit?  It seems we all need to read it again.

It doesn't seem to be on the MET web site any more,but there are copies on various sites including Pamalam.

[Alfie]

As I said, the McCanns are off limits.

What rubbish.  They also use the word 'disappearance' in the remit, a word that brings joy and happiness to sceptics because it is not the terrifying A word.  So....where does that leave us?  One for, one against.  Nowhere does it say the parents are off-limits, that's YOUR interpretation only.

[faithlilly]

It doesn't seem to be on the MET web site any more,but there are copies on various sites including Pamalam.

Are the efits still there ?

[Robittybob1]

What rubbish.  They also use the word 'disappearance' in the remit, a word that brings joy and happiness to sceptics because it is not the terrifying A word.  So....where does that leave us?  One for, one against.  Nowhere does it say the parents are off-limits, that's YOUR interpretation only.

Are you reading from the remit?  How long is it?  If you are reading it Alfie could you type a significant from phrase it in a post that would enable us to search for it via Google please?

[ShiningInLuz]

What rubbish.  They also use the word 'disappearance' in the remit, a word that brings joy and happiness to sceptics because it is not the terrifying A word.  So....where does that leave us?  One for, one against.  Nowhere does it say the parents are off-limits, that's YOUR interpretation only.

She disappeared so why should disappearance not be used?

But they are clear they are investigating 'the abduction'.

The parents are off limits.  There is no other interpretation.

[Alice Purjorick]

Are you reading from the remit?  How long is it?  If you are reading it Alfie could you type a significant from phrase it in a post that would enable us to search for it via Google please?

I really hate to say this  but what Alfie has posted is the remit.

[ShiningInLuz]

Alfie posted the remit on reply 289.

[Alice Purjorick]

While looking for the above I found this:
 
From PJ Archiving Document

The investigation, during more than 13 months, followed all the credible indices related to different hypotheses and, in an impartial manner, continued to analyse, correlate and synthesize them, looking for an explanation for the happenings of the night of 3 May 2007.

Assuming that the minor's disappearance was due to the acts of third parties, the PJ explored various lines of investigation, not excluding any hypothesis considered plausible or hypothetically acceptable.

From the documentation, you will observe that during the investigation various possibilities were contemplated.

As such, consider:

1. abduction, for sexual exploration or other (e.g, later adoption, child trafficking, organ trafficking), without homicide;

2. abduction, followed by homicide with (or without) hiding of the corpse;

3. accidental death, with later hiding of the corpse;
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[Robittybob1]

I really hate to say this  but what Alfie has posted is the remit.

So he has.  Sometimes he struggles with copy and paste but not this time.