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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #180 on: March 31, 2017, 04:50:45 PM »
amaral and the PJ have betrayed maddie by mounting such a poor investigation....IMO

Another myth.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #181 on: March 31, 2017, 04:54:29 PM »
amaral and the PJ have betrayed maddie by mounting such a poor investigation....IMO

As you have said to the opinions of others.

Irrelevant.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #182 on: March 31, 2017, 05:30:07 PM »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #183 on: March 31, 2017, 05:34:40 PM »
Another myth.

Not a myth
An opinion just as valid as any opinion you have
You only have to read amarals book to understand how much he didn't understand and he claims all the pj agreed with him

stephen25000

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Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #184 on: March 31, 2017, 05:40:39 PM »
Not a myth
An opinion just as valid as any opinion you have
You only have to read amarals book to understand how much he didn't understand and he claims all the pj agreed with him

That is a matter of opinion.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2017, 05:49:38 PM »
This is not a Myth.

Well it's not a fact but rolled out as one.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #186 on: March 31, 2017, 05:54:51 PM »
There was an automatic right that Madeleine McCann, a missing little three year old child, should have been looked for by the forces of law and order.

That right was abrogated by the forces of law and order under the leadership of a man who believed her dead.
Who did everything in his power to ensure that his 'gut reaction' opinion held sway.
Who did everything in his power to ensure that his opinion had precedence over the search for a live child ... for the very simple reason that he had decided she was dead and had died in the holiday aparment on the night of her disappearance.

That there was not a shred of evidence which supported that concerned him not at all.

With nothing to support his opinion Amaral diverted the resources which should have been rightly employed totally on the behalf of the missing child.  A tack was taken away from looking for evidence about what had happened to the missing child (what need that as he has so righteously assured all who will listen when he already knew what had happened and that she was dead) again without a shred of supporting evidence.

Madeleine McCann was singularly betrayed by the investigating authorities coordinated by Amaral.  Who has spent nearly ten years successfully diverting focus from the incompetence of the investigation led by him.

Pity he hadn't been as good at his day job as he has been at deflecting and celebrating his disastrous deficiencies, which has surely been a master class in its execution.

To the extent that we on a JUSTICE forum are querying why there are those who abhor the injustices which have been perpetrated over a ten year period on a little girl who if she has survived will now be a young person, and her family who have done all possible to find her.

She was.
Unless you believe the entire Portuguese judiciary is lying and involved in some vast conspiracy to do down a couple of tourists.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #187 on: March 31, 2017, 05:59:16 PM »
She was.
Unless you believe the entire Portuguese judiciary is lying and involved in some vast conspiracy to do down a couple of tourists.

We are not saying anyone was lying
Just totally incompetent

Offline Brietta

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #188 on: March 31, 2017, 06:03:40 PM »
Slightly at odds with Davel, here.

Amaral betrayed Madeleine.  Also some senior officers who served with him on his watch (and beyond)!

But there was also some sterling (and excellent!) put in by PJ officers in during that enquiry; and by the GNR dog-handlers.

Agreed.
It cannot be denied that some sterling work was carried out by members of all branches of the Portuguese police.  The phrase, "Lions led by donkeys" springs to mind.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #189 on: March 31, 2017, 06:06:21 PM »
Agreed.
It cannot be denied that some sterling work was carried out by members of all branches of the Portuguese police.  The phrase, "Lions led by donkeys" springs to mind.

Another opinionated myth.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #190 on: March 31, 2017, 06:09:30 PM »
She was.
Unless you believe the entire Portuguese judiciary is lying and involved in some vast conspiracy to do down a couple of tourists.

You obviously have not read Amaral's book or watched his video.  Perhaps you should.  In that way you might understand the direction in which he took the investigation as a result of his coordination of Madeleine McCann's case. The man puts it very clearly in print and video for all to mull over.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #191 on: March 31, 2017, 06:13:37 PM »
There was an automatic right that Madeleine McCann, a missing little three year old child, should have been looked for by the forces of law and order.

That right was abrogated by the forces of law and order under the leadership of a man who believed her dead.
Who did everything in his power to ensure that his 'gut reaction' opinion held sway.
Who did everything in his power to ensure that his opinion had precedence over the search for a live child ... for the very simple reason that he had decided she was dead and had died in the holiday aparment on the night of her disappearance.

That there was not a shred of evidence which supported that concerned him not at all.

With nothing to support his opinion Amaral diverted the resources which should have been rightly employed totally on the behalf of the missing child.  A tack was taken away from looking for evidence about what had happened to the missing child (what need that as he has so righteously assured all who will listen when he already knew what had happened and that she was dead) again without a shred of supporting evidence.

Madeleine McCann was singularly betrayed by the investigating authorities coordinated by Amaral.  Who has spent nearly ten years successfully diverting focus from the incompetence of the investigation led by him.

Pity he hadn't been as good at his day job as he has been at deflecting and celebrating his disastrous deficiencies, which has surely been a master class in its execution.

To the extent that we on a JUSTICE forum are querying why there are those who abhor the injustices which have been perpetrated over a ten year period on a little girl who if she has survived will now be a young person, and her family who have done all possible to find her.

It's amazing how some still believe that Amaral was able to take charge of the Madeleine investigation and decide on it's direction. Not only did he have to answer to his bosses Encarnacao and Neves, they all had to follow the directions of the public prosecutors, who are the people who actually institute and conduct criminal investigations in Portugal.

I can only assume that it's done so as to suggest that only one maverick policeman suspected the McCanns. In reality his colleagues, the public prosecutor(s) and his PJ bosses were all of the same mind as he was. Neves was adamant also that even though the investigation began to focus mainly on the parents, the other lines of inquiry kept on being investigated.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #192 on: March 31, 2017, 06:25:11 PM »
Which bit of "I would rather not be labelled a hate-monger" do you not understand?  Why do you need any cites for this statement?  It's totally bizarre that you are asking me for cites for a statement of opinion.

I was trying to discover if you were referring to someone else labelling sceptics as 'hate mongers'. You seem to be saying it's your term and your label. OK.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #193 on: March 31, 2017, 06:37:35 PM »
You obviously have not read Amaral's book or watched his video.  Perhaps you should.  In that way you might understand the direction in which he took the investigation as a result of his coordination of Madeleine McCann's case. The man puts it very clearly in print and video for all to mull over.

I have read Sr Amaral's book. I would read neither Sr Amaral's book nor Dr K. McCann's book in the light of the books providing unbiased factual accounts of events. I think we have had this conversation before and I put it to you as before:
"I expect you believe The Sound of Music is an accurate commentary on the socio political situation in 1930s Austria".
So back to the plot; Madeleine Mccann was looked for by the Portuguese judiciary it is a matter of record in the files and the archiving documents. As you seem to assert that she was denied this fundamental right perhaps you would be kind enough to provide a cite from official documentation which substantiates your assertion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why are some people so obsessed in supporting the Mccanns ?
« Reply #194 on: March 31, 2017, 06:55:45 PM »
It's amazing how some still believe that Amaral was able to take charge of the Madeleine investigation and decide on it's direction. Not only did he have to answer to his bosses Encarnacao and Neves, they all had to follow the directions of the public prosecutors, who are the people who actually institute and conduct criminal investigations in Portugal.

I can only assume that it's done so as to suggest that only one maverick policeman suspected the McCanns. In reality his colleagues, the public prosecutor(s) and his PJ bosses were all of the same mind as he was. Neves was adamant also that even though the investigation began to focus mainly on the parents, the other lines of inquiry kept on being investigated.

We only have to look at the evidence on which the McCanns were made arguidos to understand how incompetent they all where