What are the discrepancies between the McCann's and the friend's statements?

[John]

I don't mind but it just won't be one of the discrepancies to be considered here.

So far most of the discrepancies I've seen on the web fall into the category of ones we will not discuss in this thread.

The front door, back door issue was cleared up by Gerry himself. That was a glaring discrepancy that is hard to accept an excuse for.  IMO no matter what Gerry says is the reason he made the error, will not be acceptable.

Were there others like that?

There aren't really any significant discrepancies, the mix up over the front and back doors is easily explained since the interviewee didn't want to admit that they had left the patio door unlocked and consequently the apartment unsecure.

[faithlilly]

There aren't really any significant discrepancies, the mix up over the front and back doors is easily explained since the interviewee didn't want to admit that they had left the patio door unlocked and consequently the apartment unsecure.

So are you saying Gerry lied to protect himself John?

[Benice]

There aren't really any significant discrepancies, the mix up over the front and back doors is easily explained since the interviewee didn't want to admit that they had left the patio door unlocked and consequently the apartment unsecure.

IIRC - Gerry had already 'admitted' the patio doors were unlocked when he said during the interview that Matthew had entered 5a through them.

IMO Gerry did not 'change' his statement -  he corrected the misunderstanding which had occurred between himself, and/or the interpreter/ PJ officer as to which door he was referring to when he said the 'front door'.

There was considerable confusion during interviews because of some people calling the patio door the front door and others calling it the back door.

If there had been anything suspicious in the explanation Gerry gave  as why he corrected his statement - then his reason would have been recorded and Amaral would have mentioned it in his book.

IMO it would more a case of the PJ not wanting to admit an error had occurred during interviews with their interpretors/PJ officers - although personally I would have no criticism of that at all.    It was the first interview for everyone concerned - and therefore extremely understandable IMO if misunderstandings happened.

[Alice Purjorick]

its been shown the shutter could be opened from the outside...thats why i mentioned it

Raised would be a better description.
Other than that the two topped and tailed videos are not particularly informative.
A detail of the CDA that operates the shutter is a lot more informative provided you know what you are looking at.

[faithlilly]

IIRC - Gerry had already 'admitted' the patio doors were unlocked when he said during the interview that Matthew had entered 5a through them.

IMO Gerry did not 'change' his statement -  he corrected the misunderstanding which had occurred between himself, and/or the interpreter/ PJ officer as to which door he was referring to when he said the 'front door'.

There was considerable confusion during interviews because of some people calling the patio door the front door and others calling it the back door.

If there had been anything suspicious in the explanation Gerry gave  as why he corrected his statement - then his reason would have been recorded and Amaral would have mentioned it in his book.

IMO it would more a case of the PJ not wanting to admit an error had occurred during interviews with their interpretors/PJ officers - although personally I would have no criticism of that at all.    It was the first interview for everyone concerned - and therefore extremely understandable IMO if misunderstandings happened.

So the 'contrary to what he said in his last interview' does suggest to you that Gerry knew exactly what he had said and therefore was not a translation error ?

[Mr Gray]

Raised would be a better description.
Other than that the two topped and tailed videos are not particularly informative.
A detail of the CDA that operates the shutter is a lot more informative provided you know what you are looking at.

I used the same word as in the report....the point is that if the police thought the shutters could not be opened fronm the outside they were wrong

[Mr Gray]

So the 'contrary to what he said in his last interview' does suggest to you that Gerry knew exactly what he had said and therefore was not a translation error ?

not at all...more assumptions,... the statements are not verbatim and gerry could have been asked the question again to clarify it

[Robittybob1]

Exton, who knows a thing or two about statement taking I assume, reported anomalies in the McCann and their friend's statements.

But does he itemise them?

[Mr Gray]

SY were well aware of everything in the statements when they said the mccanns were not suspects...end of really

[Alice Purjorick]

I used the same word as in the report....the point is that if the police thought the shutters could not be opened fronm the outside they were wrong

Still the same comment. "Raised from the outside" is the more accurate description.

[Robittybob1]

Still the same comment. "Raised from the outside" is the more accurate description.

Are you saying they could be raised from the outside but only opened from the inside?
Even when they are opened from the inside the person could be standing on the outside.  It was a matter of whether the window was secured or not.

[pathfinder73]

David Payne and Kate McCann statements don't tally up at all about his visit on 3 May.

Gerry said David checked on their children on WED night. David denied checking on anybody's children because they had a baby monitor.

Russell said he checked through the open patio door early into the holiday. Fiona said the McCanns had been using the key to check at that time meaning the patio door would have been locked.

Jane saw Gerry and a man carrying a child. Gerry saw neither. Another witness (Jenny Murat) claims to have seen a woman matching Jane's dressed in purple description hanging outside in the street next to the apartment.

The McCanns said the crying happened on WED according to Madeleine (it was TUE according to witness Pamela Fenn). Rachel heard no crying next door on WED.

Kate said they hadn't been asked to go to the beach with the others on 3 May. Fiona said they had.

Kate said they had bathed the children before Gerry left for tennis at 6pm. Fiona said she was told Kate was bathing them by Gerry when he was at tennis.

Gerry said he sent Matt to call the police. Fiona said it was her and Matt agreed.

[Alfie]

Exton, who knows a thing or two about statement taking I assume, reported anomalies in the McCann and their friend's statements.

And some people on this forum think it's me who has a thing for you! 

What were these anomalies then?  Any ideas?

[Alfie]

Are there anomalies only in the McCanns and friends' statements or are there anomalies and inconsistencies in the statements of others taken at the time?  If the answer is 'yes' then that's odd admittedly, but we know the answer is no, so.....?

[G-Unit]

David Payne and Kate McCann statements don't tally up at all about his visit on 3 May.

Gerry said David checked on their children on WED night. David denied checking on anybody's children because they had a baby monitor.

Russell said he checked through the open patio door early into the holiday. Fiona said the McCanns had been using the key to check at that time meaning the patio door would have been locked.

Jane saw Gerry and a man carrying a child. Gerry saw neither. Another witness (Jenny Murat) claims to have seen a woman matching Jane's dressed in purple description hanging outside in the street next to the apartment.

The McCanns said the crying happened on WED according to Madeleine (it was TUE according to witness Pamela Fenn). Rachel heard no crying next door on WED.

Kate said they hadn't been asked to go to the beach with the others on 3 May. Fiona said they had been.

Kate said they had bathed the children before Gerry left for tennis at 6pm. Fiona said she was told Kate was bathing them by Gerry when he was at tennis.

Gerry said he sent Matt to call the police. Fiona said it was her and Matt agreed.

Gerry said Dave arrived at tennis at 6.30 pm, visited Kate, returned to his apartment to get ready and arrived back at the courts at 7 pm. No-one else agrees with that, especially Fiona who says all four men were at the tennis courts when she arrived there well before 7 pm.