What are the discrepancies between the McCann's and the friend's statements?

[Mr Gray]

Gerry said Dave arrived at tennis at 6.30 pm, visited Kate, returned to his apartment to get ready and arrived back at the courts at 7 pm. No-one else agrees with that, especially Fiona who says all four men were at the tennis courts when she arrived there well before 7 pm.

so one says seven and another says well before seven....peoples recollection of events are not always accurate...and again Gerry's statement was not verbatim and twice translated...

[G-Unit]

so one says seven and another says well before seven....peoples recollection of events are not always accurate...and again Gerry's statement was not verbatim and twice translated...

Poor Dave. Half an hour of running around, getting ready, all to play ten minutes of tennis.

Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

I'd say probably by seven o'clock we were, me and my mum headed back with the kids to start bath time. Erm, and Dave, we left him playing tennis for a bit longer......'I'd say, if we came back about seven, he was about ten minutes after that, so about ten past seven, quarter past seven, something like that'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
 

[Robittybob1]

So are you saying Gerry lied to protect himself John?

These are the sort of discrepancies I want to isolate.  Ones where it seems the interviewee lied to protect themselves or protect others.

[Robittybob1]

So the 'contrary to what he said in his last interview' does suggest to you that Gerry knew exactly what he had said and therefore was not a translation error ?

That is how I read it too.  But if it can be understood differently I'll have a go at doing that too.

[Robittybob1]

David Payne and Kate McCann statements don't tally up at all about his visit on 3 May.

Gerry said David checked on their children on WED night. David denied checking on anybody's children because they had a baby monitor.

Russell said he checked through the open patio door early into the holiday. Fiona said the McCanns had been using the key to check at that time meaning the patio door would have been locked.

Jane saw Gerry and a man carrying a child. Gerry saw neither. Another witness (Jenny Murat) claims to have seen a woman matching Jane's dressed in purple description hanging outside in the street next to the apartment.

The McCanns said the crying happened on WED according to Madeleine (it was TUE according to witness Pamela Fenn). Rachel heard no crying next door on WED.

Kate said they hadn't been asked to go to the beach with the others on 3 May. Fiona said they had.

Kate said they had bathed the children before Gerry left for tennis at 6pm. Fiona said she was told Kate was bathing them by Gerry when he was at tennis.

Gerry said he sent Matt to call the police. Fiona said it was her and Matt agreed.

Some real meat there to chew on.  I'll want to go back to the actual words said though.

[Robittybob1]

Are there anomalies only in the McCanns and friends' statements or are there anomalies and inconsistencies in the statements of others taken at the time?  If the answer is 'yes' then that's odd admittedly, but we know the answer is no, so.....?

So why aren't all discrepancies looked at with the same intensity?

[Alfie]

So why aren't all discrepancies looked at with the same intensity?

Because some people are only interested in highlighting the McCanns and friends supposed discrepancies because they're convinced they dunnit.

[Alfie]

Poor Dave. Half an hour of running around, getting ready, all to play ten minutes of tennis.

Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

I'd say probably by seven o'clock we were, me and my mum headed back with the kids to start bath time. Erm, and Dave, we left him playing tennis for a bit longer......'I'd say, if we came back about seven, he was about ten minutes after that, so about ten past seven, quarter past seven, something like that'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

Well lets see, if Dave started playing tennis around 7 (say 5 to) and finished around quarter past then that's 20 minutes of tennis.  What does it matter anyway - these people are not involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, or do you seriously think otherwise?

[G-Unit]

Poor Dave. Half an hour of running around, getting ready, all to play ten minutes of tennis.

Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

I'd say probably by seven o'clock we were, me and my mum headed back with the kids to start bath time. Erm, and Dave, we left him playing tennis for a bit longer......'I'd say, if we came back about seven, he was about ten minutes after that, so about ten past seven, quarter past seven, something like that'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

Then again, maybe he played for almost an hour.

And I’m not entirely sure what time I got back to, to the room, but, you know, well eventually, me, Matt and Dave all came back.  And it was probably the latest that we’d got back and Jane and the kids had been in there for some time.  Erm, I’d say it was probably coming up to, you know, not, not far shy of eight o’clock itself.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

we didn't get on court until, phew, sometime closer to seven........But we played then for, I think the best part of an hour,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

[slartibartfast]

Well lets see, if Dave started playing tennis around 7 (say 5 to) and finished around quarter past then that's 20 minutes of tennis.  What does it matter anyway - these people are not involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, or do you seriously think otherwise?

Of course they are involved, they were friends of her parents and there when she went missing.

[Mr Gray]

Of course they are involved, they were friends of her parents and there when she went missing.

so they are involved in maddies disappearance...what evidence do you have for that....LOL

[Alfie]

Of course they are involved, they were friends of her parents and there when she went missing.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding my post or are you accusing the Paynes of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance?

[slartibartfast]

Are you deliberately misunderstanding my post or are you accusing the Paynes of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance?

You seem to be confusing responsible for and involved in.

[Mr Gray]

You seem to be confusing responsible for and involved in.

so they arent responsible for the disappearance...just involved in it....no confusion

[Robittybob1]

Well lets see, if Dave started playing tennis around 7 (say 5 to) and finished around quarter past then that's 20 minutes of tennis.  What does it matter anyway - these people are not involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, or do you seriously think otherwise?

I think we shouldn't eliminate anyone as a possible suspect yet.