What are the discrepancies between the McCann's and the friend's statements?

[Robittybob1]

Well, with all that knowledge we have to consider:
1. what is the build of the said 'abductor'
and how agile was he/she.
2. what did maddie weigh in at? how tall  and what angle would the 'abductor' be carryig Maddie out of the said window
3. was Maddie a dead weight?
4. why did Maddie not wake up during this heist?
she woke up many other nights...

I have proposed there could be two persons involved so no adult needs to go through the window, so "the build of the said 'abductor'" doesn't come into it. (Unless they are both dwarfs.)

[Robittybob1]

Someone said "It has to be said though that Kate McCann's signature is on the records indicating she collected all three children from their creches that day.  Her book, on the other hand, clearly states that she arranged for her husband to collect the kids while she went for a run on the beach.  ....

My response:
So have we got Kate, on the Thursday, saying she is running at the same time as Gerry was picking up the kids, but it is Kate's signature signing out the children on the forms.

Has anyone here looked into this claimed contradiction?

[Robittybob1]

Someone said "It has to be said though that Kate McCann's signature is on the records indicating she collected all three children from their creches that day.  Her book, on the other hand, clearly states that she arranged for her husband to collect the kids while she went for a run on the beach.  ....

My response:
So have we got Kate, on the Thursday, saying she is running at the same time as Gerry was picking up the kids, but it is Kate's signature signing out the children on the forms.

Has anyone here looked into this claimed contradiction?

On the 6th page of the chapter "Missing" Kate does write that she arranged for Gerry to pick up the kids, and further down she says they were at the Tapas area having their tea when Kate came in from the run.

Now to see if it is Kate on the creche sheets (proper term in the file is "Creche registration files").
On the Thursday it appears as if it is signed out by K McCann but not in sufficient detail to be certain it wasn't completed by a nanny on Kate's behalf.  It is definitely an inconsistency between the book and the file.

[Eleanor]

On the 6th page of the chapter "Missing" Kate does write that she arranged for Gerry to pick up the kids, and further down she says they were at the Tapas area having their tea when Kate came in from the run.

Now to see if it is Kate on the creche sheets (proper term in the file is "Creche registration files").
On the Thursday it appears as if it is signed out by K McCann but not in sufficient detail to be certain it wasn't completed by a nany on Kate's behalf.  It is definitely an inconsistency between the book and the file.

I think you might find that the children were signed out after the high tea at The Tapas.

[Robittybob1]

I was going to edit the above but I'll put in a new post
"On the 6th page of the chapter "Missing" Kate does write that she arranged for Gerry to pick up the kids, and further down she says they were at the Tapas area having their tea when Kate came in from the run.

Now to see if it is Kate on the creche sheets (proper term in the file is "Creche registration files").
On the Thursday it appears as if she is signed out by K McCann but not in sufficient detail to be certain it wasn't completed by a nanny on Kate's behalf.  It is definitely an inconsistency between the book and the file. Maybe Gerry had to get the twins and Kate picked up Madeleine.
No Kate's signature is on the twins creche form too so that is strange!
The sign out time is 5:30 which is the time she says she arrived at the Tapas for tea and that too would be impossible.
"Ten minutes later the five of us went back to our apartment, I was carrying Madeleine. Because she was so exhausted we skipped playtime that evening."  So the sign out from Tapas should have been more like 17.45
Gerry goes off to play more tennis at 6:00 PM.

[Eleanor]

The children were taken from the creche to the Tapas for high tea.  The parents collected the children from there and signed them out.

It is documented on here somewhere.

[Robittybob1]

The children were taken from the creche to the Tapas for high tea.  The parents collected the children from there and signed them out.

It is documented on here somewhere.

When they go to the tapas for high tea the kids are in the care of the parents, so I think there would be no reason to have sign out from there.  I'll see if I can find more.

[Eleanor]

When they go to the tapas for high tea the kids are in the care of the parents, so I think there would be no reason to have sign out from there.  I'll see if I can find more.

No.  The children were in the care of the Nannies.

I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear.

[Robittybob1]

When they go to the tapas for high tea the kids are in the care of the parents, so I think there would be no reason to have sign out from there.  I'll see if I can find more.

Cat Baker remembers like this: "On Thursday the 3rd of May 2007, I remember Gerry having accompanied Madeleine to the club between 9h15 and 9h20 in the morning. I do not remember who came to pick her up for lunch but after she returned in the afternoon for a dive/swim. These activities were realized with the other children. On this day I remember that we sailed and I saw friends of the McCanns on the beach, David and Jane. Around 14h45 Madeleine returned to the Minis Club on top of the reception but I do not remember who accompanied her. This afternoon we went swimming. Kate went to get Madeleine from the Tapas Bar area and according to what I remember she was wearing sporting clothes and I assumed that she was practicing some form of athletics. It was around 15h25/18h00. I think that Gerry was playing tennis."  So that matches the sheets.

[Mr Gray]

Exton, who knows a thing or two about statement taking I assume, reported anomalies in the McCann and their friend's statements.

We know there are anomalies
The question is
Is there an innocent explanation

[slartibartfast]

We know there are anomalies
The question is
Is there an innocent explanation

The question should be can we find evidence of an innocent explanation and not just find excuses.

[Mr Gray]

The question should be can we find evidence of an innocent explanation and not just find excuses.

again a matter of opinion and bias

[slartibartfast]

again a matter of opinion and bias

Don't be so hard on yourself....only joking.

[Brietta]

The question should be can we find evidence of an innocent explanation and not just find excuses.

Nine people witnessing the same event will see things differently and will report it differently.  If all nine are word perfect in describing the event exactly the same as each other that would be evidence there may have been collusion.

Discrepancies are indications all nine are relating their own account and describe versions of the event as it appeared independently to them as individuals.

[Alfie]

The question should be can we find evidence of an innocent explanation and not just find excuses.

I watched a "true crime" programme the other day about a robbery which occurred in broad daylight in which the offender left the crime scene in a car, with multiple witnesses.  The police really struggled with the witness statements as they were all at odds with each other, different colour / make of car, different number plates etc, in the end they worked off a consensus of some of the info which eventually led them to the car.  The witnesses who got their facts wrong were simply innocent bystanders with not very good recall of the events, that was their excuse and their is no reason to assume it's any different in this case.