What are the discrepancies between the McCann's and the friend's statements?

[pathfinder73]

your first claim was "they all entered via the front key door" but Kate is just talking obout how the building was reopened.
Make a point re David with firm times and you may have a good point.

They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key.

THEY

[Robittybob1]

They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key.

THEY

That could still mean they sent one ahead to open up and the others entered via the patio door.

[pathfinder73]

That could still mean they sent one ahead to open up and the others entered via the patio door.

She didn't say that so let's keep what she did say or what's the point of police statements? You can't change your mind whenever you feel like it Statements are signed so that is evidence.

[Robittybob1]

She didn't say that so let's keep what she did say or what's the point of police statements? You can't change your mind whenever you feel like it Statements are signed so that is evidence.

I still maintain that as long as the apartment was opened via the front door , that is how they entered the apartment.  The finer points are not specified.

[pathfinder73]

So you think Kate carries each child up those steps when Gerry goes to open up?  They should use the safer path route like they did when they ran off to the end garden. The statement should have that in it if it happened.

[Robittybob1]

So you think Kate carries each child up those steps when Gerry goes to open up?  They should use the safer path route like they did when they ran off to the end garden. The statement should have that in it if it happened.

They are capable of walking themselves. Or running as you mention.  Kate mentions having to carry Madeleine home that evening so she wouldn't be keen to go around the long way.

[pathfinder73]

They are capable of walking themselves. Or running as you mention.  Kate mentions having to carry Madeleine home that evening so she wouldn't be keen to go around the long way.

So she says but David didn't say it at 6:30 when he said they were standing not panned out on the sofa.

1485 "But could you remember what Kate was wearing for example''
 Reply "I can't, no.'
1485 "And did you actually set eyes on each individual child''
Reply "All three children I saw, yeah.'
1485 "And were they standing up' Sitting down''
 Reply "Err they were generally standing up, yeah.'
1485 "Did they actually acknowledge you''
 Reply "Err oh yeah, you know I'm very sure that if you'd have asked them, you know that evening or the next day they'd all say ah yeah, I popped in. You know I, you know I did know the children very well, we'd all you know, met up many times before err you know I, you know again I'd be playing with Madeleine you know in the, err the play area err you know during that week, you know lifting her up, twizzing her round and everything, I knew her that well, you know, to do that, and as I say err she'd definitely know who I was and certainly, as I say, just to reinforce that she looked very happy.' http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[ferryman]

Rogatory interviews.

Brought to us by fraudster Levy.

Who knows how they have been tinkered with, altered and corrupted.

We can only guess.

[ShiningInLuz]

Rogatory interviews.

Brought to us by fraudster Levy.

Who knows how they have been tinkered with, altered and corrupted.

We can only guess.

Given the number of people who have been cross-checking the rogs, what is your opinion?  I know what mine is.

[Brietta]

So she says but David didn't say it at 6:30 when he said they were standing not panned out on the sofa.

1485 "But could you remember what Kate was wearing for example''
 Reply "I can't, no.'
1485 "And did you actually set eyes on each individual child''
Reply "All three children I saw, yeah.'
1485 "And were they standing up' Sitting down''
 Reply "Err they were generally standing up, yeah.'
1485 "Did they actually acknowledge you''
 Reply "Err oh yeah, you know I'm very sure that if you'd have asked them, you know that evening or the next day they'd all say ah yeah, I popped in. You know I, you know I did know the children very well, we'd all you know, met up many times before err you know I, you know again I'd be playing with Madeleine you know in the, err the play area err you know during that week, you know lifting her up, twizzing her round and everything, I knew her that well, you know, to do that, and as I say err she'd definitely know who I was and certainly, as I say, just to reinforce that she looked very happy.' http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

So it is safe to say that the three children ~ Madeleine included ~ were seen alive and well by a third party when he called at the apartment in the early evening.
I think that is all the police wanted to know.

[Alice Purjorick]

So it is safe to say that the three children ~ Madeleine included ~ were seen alive and well by a third party when he called at the apartment in the early evening.
I think that is all the police wanted to know.

Provided you do not subscribe to theory put forward in post 142.

[Brietta]

Provided you do not subscribe to theory put forward in post 142.

The one thing Morais and I agree is as outlined in that post ... although more difficult to twist time and date stamped audio and time and date stamped video recordings for misrepresentation and profit.  Easy peasy! with full editorial control ... I have often wondered where the time and date stamp on the dog videos got to ... I believe the PJ recordings were so marked.

[sadie]

The one thing Morais and I agree is as outlined in that post ... although more difficult to twist time and date stamped audio and time and date stamped video recordings for misrepresentation and profit.  Easy peasy! with full editorial control ... I have often wondered where the time and date stamp on the dog videos got to ... I believe the PJ recordings were so marked.

Glad to see others are noticing how facts are being altered on the internet.

Sinister IMO

[pathfinder73]

So it is safe to say that the three children ~ Madeleine included ~ were seen alive and well by a third party when he called at the apartment in the early evening.
I think that is all the police wanted to know.

Safe to say when two witnesses contradict each other?

[Brietta]

Safe to say when two witnesses contradict each other?

In my opinion it is an absolute impossibility for an internet pundit to determine anything at all from non verbatim, at least twice translated statements recorded ~ initially by necessity ~ by amateurs.

It suggests to me the blind leading the blind.

I would imagine forum rules would allow an expression of opinion on apparent witness contradictions ... but that is all it would be ... an opinion.
Even an opinion would have to couched in non libellous terms to abide by forum protocols.