The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Myster]

And long may it continue!

[Holly Goodhead]

mrswah in terms of accents I prefer Andrew Hunter's along with his crevat!  In terms of looks I like, very much, the actor who played JB 

[Myster]

There are enough Hooray Henrys in government. The last thing we need is a plummy-voiced toff fighting for Bamber.

[mrswah]

mrswah in terms of accents I prefer Andrew Hunter's along with his crevat!  In terms of looks I like, very much, the actor who played JB 

LOL.  Agreed, re the JB actor.

Andrew Hunter looked and sounded nothing like I had imagined!

[Aunt Agatha]

If it was SC at the window and she shot herself shortly afterwards then I doubt any noticeable difference in decomposition would be noticeable over such s short time period.  But the point is to come out after 35 years and claim to have an alibi just makes you look weak and guilty.  He surely must discuss these things with those around him and its a pity they don't talk him out of it.

Holly, I may have misunderstood as I've not followed this case since Jeremy and I last spoke.

Are you stating he has just recently come up with the fact that Sheila's supposed appearance at the bedroom is his alibi?

Has he not mentioned this previously?

[Holly Goodhead]

LOL.  Agreed, re the JB actor.

Andrew Hunter looked and sounded nothing like I had imagined!

See what you think of this one if you haven't seen it already.
It features the late DS Jones.  I find his accent/voice interesting which CC also comments on in his book.

https://youtu.be/bcTvqLk0MWU

It's a Sky production 'Killing Mum And Dad' and was the subject of a complaint from JB to the body which regulates broadcasters Of?

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly, I may have misunderstood as I've not followed this case since Jeremy and I last spoke.

Are you stating he has just recently come up with the fact that Sheila's supposed appearance at the bedroom is his alibi?

Has he not mentioned this previously?

Yes he has mentioned it previously but he has never gone as far as claiming its his alibi. 

[Holly Goodhead]

There are enough Hooray Henrys in government. The last thing we need is a plummy-voiced toff fighting for Bamber.

Ah willsoon be put in his place by Priti Patel.

[Myster]

See what you think of this one if you haven't seen it already.
It features the late DS Jones.  I find his accent/voice interesting which CC also comments on in his book.

https://youtu.be/bcTvqLk0MWU

It's a Sky production 'Killing Mum And Dad' and was the subject of a complaint from JB to the body which regulates broadcasters Of?

The Stan Jones dodgy accent hunting-season started up again, I see... https://youtu.be/bcTvqLk0MWU?t=1923

[Myster]

Ah willsoon be put in his place by Priti Patel.

And a priti proper thing too!

[Aunt Agatha]

Yes he has mentioned it previously but he has never gone as far as claiming its his alibi.

Oh yes he has!

We both believed that at the very beginning.  That is all we had as evidence.  Jeremy has always believed this. ALWAYS

[Holly Goodhead]

Oh yes he has!

We both believed that at the very beginning.  That is all we had as evidence.  Jeremy has always believed this. ALWAYS

Yes that's fair enough but it's not an alibi as it can't be proved what or who it was. 

The police officers, PS Bews and PC Myall, observed what they thought was movement (PC Myall actually) but when they repositioned themselves they explained it as a trick of the light ie a moon shadow reflecting on the window.  No one will ever know what or who it was.  But one thing is for sure it isn't an alibi and for JB to come out and say otherwise 35 years later just makes him look weak and guilty.  It's the reason Brett Collins has turned on JB.  BC knows JB didn't have an alibi. 

[Aunt Agatha]

Yes that's fair enough but it's not an alibi as it can't be proved what or who it was. 

The police officers, PS Bews and PC Myall, observed what they thought was movement (PC Myall actually) but when they repositioned themselves they explained it as a trick of the light ie a moon shadow reflecting on the window.  No one will ever know what or who it was.  But one thing is for sure it isn't an alibi and for JB to come out and say otherwise 35 years later just makes him look weak and guilty.  It's the reason Brett Collins has turned on JB.  BC knows JB didn't have an alibi.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm going back to the very beginning and the discussions we have. I've not looked through the evidence like you have.

Are you saying the 'conversation with somebody in the house and the figure at the windiw' have been proven beyond a doubt, never took place.?

Of course Jeremy has always stated he could not have killed his family due to these supposed facts.
But if you have evidence that they did not happen in the way Jeremy has always stated it did, I'd be very interested in reading it.   Along with the dog barking, sounding as if it was running around the house but later found locked in a cupboard (I'm not sure about that last bit tbh, this is my memory of very early days), you have proof that this could not, under any circumstances, have happened?

[Holly Goodhead]

So, correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm going back to the very beginning and the discussions we have. I've not looked through the evidence like you have.

Are you saying the 'conversation with somebody in the house and the figure at the windiw' have been proven beyond a doubt, never took place.?

Of course Jeremy has always stated he could not have killed his family due to these supposed facts.
But if you have evidence that they did not happen in the way Jeremy has always stated it did, I'd be very interested in reading it.   Along with the dog barking, sounding as if it was running around the house but later found locked in a cupboard (I'm not sure about that last bit tbh, this is my memory of very early days), you have proof that this could not, under any circumstances, have happened?

It has always been the case PC Myall alerted PS Bews and JB to some movement at the window but they immediately wrote this off as a 'trick of the light' because by moving themselves back and forth they claimed they were able to recreate the trick of the light.

How do you think this can assist JB today win an appeal?  Or even garner support from the media and public in general? 

[Aunt Agatha]

Holly, I'm not stating it can help, I'm only questioning you about what he saw and heard that night and was recorded.

So again, correct me if I'm wrong, these things did not occur just because a copper stated his own opinion ... With no evidence to prove it, just a view.
In addition, if a cover up had taken place, those two statements recorded by Jeremy would have to be discounted, without question... As it would always remain an alibi with supporting evidence.

What about the dog running around?