The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Holly Goodhead]

I didn’t mention perception but it’s interesting you did

Perception Is Not Reality
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-power-prime/201908/perception-is-not-reality

My perception is my reality.

[Caroline]

That's your perception of him not mine.

Regardless I think all prisoners are vulnerable.

How many do you know?

[Nicholas]

’Attention-seeker' has murder conviction quashed’
“ His solicitor,Mark Newby, said: "Ian is delighted to have his liberty today," but added that the case showed the continuing risk of "vulnerable people being pushed through the court process without the necessary safeguards in place".https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jun/16/ian-lawless-murder-conviction-quashed

”the case showed the continuing risk of "vulnerable people being pushed through the court process without the necessary safeguards in place”

Some ‘safeguards’

Grimsby Town fan who was cleared of murder is banned from every football ground in country

 

What utter nonsense

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Robert Greene wrote this you say?

Can you post a link 

https://www.physisconsultancy.co.uk/2016/05/05/triangulation/

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I meant all of them. There may be more distant relatives too, but I don't know.

I'm sure at least some of them DO give him a second thought------every time he plans an appeal.

And that’s all they give him: a quick second thought while they roll their eyes in boredom 🙄

[mrswah]

And that’s all they give him: a quick second thought while they roll their eyes in boredom 🙄

Apprehension, I would think.

[Nicholas]

Has anyone else noticed how the Criminal Cases Review Commission don’t appear to have commented publicly on this

Don’t forget the Kevin Nunn case which Mark Newby referred to as a ‘disaster’

Supreme Court’s judgment in Nunn a “disaster” that reinforced difficulties getting exhibits, says Mark Newby
https://mobile.twitter.com/C4CrimAppeals/status/964528097327566848

”Lawyers for Bamber – whose case is currently the subject of a six-part ITV dramatisation – have found in archives a series of statements by senior officers and the police surgeon that they say contradict that claim. They say the documents were never seen by the trial jury, and suggest that Caffell appeared to have only one gunshot wound when the police entered the crime scene.

“Mark Newby, a solicitor advocate at Quality Solicitors Jordans, which represents Bamber, told the Guardian:

“The jury only heard of the two shots, which was relied upon by the crown to support their case, but this wasn’t the whole picture. It represents yet another significant aspect to this case which supports Jeremy Bamber and undermines this conviction.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true


Did the trial jury hear from the Vet, Anji and Virginia Greaves, Sue Ford etc ?

[Holly Goodhead]

How many do you know?

How many do think Lady Edwina Grosvenor 'knows' ? 

[Caroline]

How many do think Lady Edwina Grosvenor 'knows' ?

I have no idea but I'm not asking her, I asked you?

[Nicholas]

Who was the ‘close friend’ that claimed to the Suns Kieron Saunders, the day after the Murders (8th Aug 1985), SC ’had been taking methadone, a heroin substitute’?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7143593/jeremy-bamber/

Maybe someone can post the front page of the Sun, which was published the day after the murders, on the forum

Who was Kieron Saunders source for the ’heroin’ comment and NB found ’near telephone’ with ’seven’ gun shot wounds?

[Nicholas]

I'm no lawyer, but I think IF (and it's a massive IF), he was successful via the CCRC, he was have to face a retrial and Julie (I am sure) would be called.

Why do you think she was released as a witness from the appeal hearing?

“Lord Justice Kay, Mr Justice Wright and Mr Justice Henriques gave permission for her to be called, but no application was made for her to do so.
After the lunchtime adjournment, and following submissions from lawyers for both parties, she was released as a witness. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2358021.stm

[Nicholas]

Maybe someone can post the front page of the Sun, which was published the day after the murders, on the forum

Who was Kieron Saunders source for the ’heroin’ comment and NB found ’near telephone’ with ’seven’ gun shot wounds?

This wreaks of Bamber

His psychopathic gaslighting was used on the police from the start, ‘as a specialized form of lying and manipulation’
and it’s not stopped since - which is another crime in itself

“Our society is moving in the direction of permitting, reinforcing, and in some cases actually valuing some of the traits listed in the Psychopathy Checklist.” —Robert Hare
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/communication-success/201810/7-characteristics-the-modern-psychopath

[Common sense]

Why do you think she was released as a witness from the appeal hearing?

“Lord Justice Kay, Mr Justice Wright and Mr Justice Henriques gave permission for her to be called, but no application was made for her to do so.
After the lunchtime adjournment, and following submissions from lawyers for both parties, she was released as a witness. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2358021.stm

I think she was summonsed specifically to give evidence regarding her deal with the NOTW and her dealings with the bank.  The court was able to bat away these spurious points of the appeal on the evidence that had always existed so there was no need for her to give evidence.

[Nicholas]

I think she was summonsed specifically to give evidence regarding her deal with the NOTW and her dealings with the bank.  The court was able to bat away these spurious points of the appeal on the evidence that had always existed so there was no need for her to give evidence.

 

[Nicholas]

My perception is my reality.

Jeremy Bamber
@Bambertweets
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Was Sheila Caffell accidentally shot by firearms officers training at the scene at #WhiteHouseFarm?
“The appearance suggested in the case of Sheila Caffell 'the wound' had been inflicted by her own hand.” PC995 Norman Wright
The #JeremyBamber case
https://jeremy-bamber.co.uk/single-gunshot-wound-to-sheila