The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Admin]

It is the convention on this forum that posters stick to acknowledged facts where possible. If you have a theory, by all means let us explore it but please do not post opinion as fact.

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[Nicholas]

Appears Bamber discarded Poppy Ann Miller a few years ago

“I corresponded by letter and email with Jeremy Bamber for six years from 2011, he also telephoned me on a regular basis”

I had a short conversation with Ms Miller once. I read some of her awful blog and then asked her if she had got a publisher yet.

Blocked.

Here is a short sample:
 
Sipping on my glass of red I wandered through the kitchen and out into my garden, admiring the success of my green-fingered efforts in such a restricted growing environment. Revelling in the surge of pleasure that the blackbirds had honoured my plot again and that their sheer perseverance in nest-building in the grapevine overhanging the pergola had once again produced a late brood.

By Poppy Ann Miller
“Now it might be that Julie Mugford, the relatives and Essex Police were subject to different motivations. Mugford - jealous, having discovered that Jeremy had been two-timing her, also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation.
The relatives? Possibly threatened with losing their financial status if Jeremy inherited the property - but Essex Police officers?

Poppy Ann Miller claims to be a ‘Psychodynamic counsellor’

Sounds to me Ms Miller has yet to explore the emotional and psychologically abusive relationship JM found herself in ?

[Nicholas]

By Poppy Ann Miller
“Now it might be that Julie Mugford, the relatives and Essex Police were subject to different motivations. Mugford - jealous, having discovered that Jeremy had been two-timing her, also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation.
The relatives? Possibly threatened with losing their financial status if Jeremy inherited the property - but Essex Police officers?

Poppy Ann Miller claims to be a ‘Psychodynamic counsellor’

Sounds to me Ms Miller has yet to explore the emotional and psychologically abusive relationship JM found herself in ?

No doubt ‘the relatives’ would also have been subjected to this type of behaviour from Bamber

[G-Unit]

No doubt ‘the relatives’ would also have been subjected to this type of behaviour from Bamber

If Jeremy Bamber was raised like his sister he would have had no experience of how to behave in a spontaneous loving relationship. Sheila told Colin Caffell that she was only allowed to play with her mother or sit on her father's knee at certain times of the day. It wasn't allowed at other times. June begged to have the twins at the farm, but left them in the care of a village girl while she went out and did other things. [ISOTRE by CC]

[Nicholas]

If Jeremy Bamber was raised like his sister he would have had no experience of how to behave in a spontaneous loving relationship. Sheila told Colin Caffell that she was only allowed to play with her mother or sit on her father's knee at certain times of the day. It wasn't allowed at other times. June begged to have the twins at the farm, but left them in the care of a village girl while she went out and did other things. [ISOTRE by CC]

What has Bamber ever said of this ?

[Nicholas]

By Poppy Ann Miller
“Now it might be that Julie Mugford, the relatives and Essex Police were subject to different motivations. Mugford - jealous, having discovered that Jeremy had been two-timing her, also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation.
The relatives? Possibly threatened with losing their financial status if Jeremy inherited the property - but Essex Police officers?

This statement by Poppy Ann Miller

“also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation“

suggests maybe subconsciously she knows Bamber is guilty

What reason would JM have to know anything about joint enterprise legislation ? What a bizarre statement to make

[Nicholas]

”The Court of Appeal needs to acknowledge miscarriages of justice – and ensure that they don’t occur in the future”
(2018)
https://www.thejusticegap.com/the-court-of-appeal-needs-to-acknowledge-miscarriages-of-justice-and-ensure-that-they-dont-occur-in-the-future/

What if the cases are of innocence fraud?

[APRIL]

This statement by Poppy Ann Miller

“also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation“

suggests maybe subconsciously she knows Bamber is guilty

What reason would JM have to know anything about joint enterprise legislation ? What a bizarre statement to make


Lucky girl!! A student having to work to pay for university, being able to afford the flight to Canada at around 19 years of age!!!

[Nicholas]

Lucky girl!! A student having to work to pay for university, being able to afford the flight to Canada at around 19 years of age!!!

Lots of university students travel the world at that age

[APRIL]

Lots of university students travel the world at that age

Which is fine when they can afford it, or have parents who can fund it. Julie had been at university since she left school and was needing to work to pay her way.

[Nicholas]

Which is fine when they can afford it, or have parents who can fund it. Julie had been at university since she left school and was needing to work to pay her way.

Did her parents help fund her trip to Canada - or had she saved up her wages?

Not sure what point you are trying to make April?

I posted

This statement by Poppy Ann Miller

“also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation“

suggests maybe subconsciously she knows Bamber is guilty

What reason would JM have to know anything about joint enterprise legislation ? What a bizarre statement to make

And you replied

Which is fine when they can afford it, or have parents who can fund it. Julie had been at university since she left school and was needing to work to pay her way.

I don’t follow?

[APRIL]

Did her parents help fund her trip to Canada - or had she saved up her wages?

Not sure what point you are trying to make April?

I posted
And you replied
I don’t follow?

Sorry Nicholas. My reply was a tad sarcastic. I've heard this Canadian drugs story on blue and I've always disputed it. I was questioning how she could have afforded the flight to/stay in Canada, basically when she was still in school. She was only just over 19 when she first met Jeremy so it must have been prior to then. I don't think she came from the sort of family who could afford such a trip and the only money she had was what she earned doing odd jobs.

[mrswah]

Sorry Nicholas. My reply was a tad sarcastic. I've heard this Canadian drugs story on blue and I've always disputed it. I was questioning how she could have afforded the flight to/stay in Canada, basically when she was still in school. She was only just over 19 when she first met Jeremy so it must have been prior to then. I don't think she came from the sort of family who could afford such a trip and the only money she had was what she earned doing odd jobs.

Yes, Julie would have been on a student grant, and would have had to work during the holidays to pay for "extras". I hadn't heard that she went to Canada, although I know she lives there now.

[Myster]

I don't remember reading anything about Julie visiting Canada, nor about the ludicrous accusation that she returned with any drugs.  After the trial, redtop payout and graduation, yes Julie did emigrate but I'm not sure if that included a promised job placement there as well.

[Caroline]

Did her parents help fund her trip to Canada - or had she saved up her wages?

Not sure what point you are trying to make April?

I posted
And you replied
I don’t follow?

The is no evidence of a trip to Canada, think that might be a myth.