The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[John]

According to Anji Greaves interview in the Sun newspaper - which was published the day after Bamber was found guilty of murdering his family in October 1986 - she (Anji) claimed Bamber went to her flat in Kensington 2 days after the funerals.

She claimed Bamber made a pass at her on her sofa and they started kissing

In the same article she also claimed JM was ‘scorned’ and went to the police because of her not her sister Virginia.

Suspect it was Bamber who gave Anji Greaves the impression JM was scorned - as opposed to him being the scorned one

Bamber was most probably raging because JM did what she did

Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

[mrswah]

Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

It was either her, or she and her boyfriend persuaded Julie to do so. Can't remember exactly!

[Eleanor]

Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

Noooo, Pleeease, not another one.

[Nicholas]

The news article stated;

“But Anji said Bamber’s lust for her also lead to her downfall.

For it aroused jealous hatred in his scorned former girlfriend Julie Mugford.

And she went to the police to tell them how Bamber wiped out his family so he could inherit a £600,000 fortune

“Anji later told the Sun that she and Jeremy became lovers before his arrest and it was their affair, rather than his with his sister, that had led to Julie being so inflamed with jealousy that she named him as the murderer.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=the+sun+anji+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=h8PnNHTkTl&sig=ACfU3U1NpuMY9WW_GJ0UKEtiEAeZmVwONg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwics4rWi4LpAhWEoFwKHYIID8oQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20sun%20anji%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false

[Nicholas]

How did it lead to whose downfall?  Is that Anji, Virginia or Julie?

It can be seen as confusing Eleanor because the false narrative runs so deep

And don’t suppose DI Miller meant to make things worse by claiming during the ‘crimes that shook Britain’ doc that JM was a jilted lover or whatever it is he said but it appears to me JM went to the police because she started to recognise she’d been duped

[Eleanor]

No wonder some people think he is innocent.

[Nicholas]

Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

Liz Rimmington who also had sex with Bamber in 1984 whilst JM was on holiday in France

Bamber’s CT website evidences the fact he’d started to isolate JM from her friends

“after bumping into Julie and Jeremy in August 1984 the girls began going out together a lot over the next four weeks. Following a night out, Liz telephoned Julie the next day and Jeremy answered the phone saying Julie didn’t want to speak to her or see her any more[2] without giving any reason, which baffled Liz.

[Nicholas]

The CT wrongly and falsely refer to JM as Bamber’s girlfriend but she was his EX girlfriend

“Julie Mugford was the girlfriend of Jeremy Bamber who testified against him in court“
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

His girlfriend was Anji Greaves

Anji Greaves had waited for the verdict in a hotel not far from Chelmsford with two friends and a journalist. Her room was decorated with ‘Welcome Home, Jeremy!’ banners, and she wore her glitziest outfit, with a bag packed; the journalist intended to write Jeremy’s story when he was acquitted and then hustle the couple off on holiday. But when the television news delivered the outcome, Anji walked out in a daze, narrowly avoiding being run over. She told the journalist: ‘I feel so much loyalty for Jeremy but I do not know if I can bring myself to go on visiting now. It could be a life sentence for both of us.’

[Eleanor]

Poor man.  All those jealous women squabbling over him and dropping him in it if they lost.

[Nicholas]

It can be seen as confusing Eleanor because the false narrative runs so deep

And don’t suppose DI Miller meant to make things worse by claiming during the ‘crimes that shook Britain’ doc that JM was a jilted lover or whatever it is he said but it appears to me JM went to the police because she started to recognise she’d been duped

JM was a victim of abuse

[Nicholas]

From Bamber's CT website:

“Thursday 15 August 1985 – Nevertheless, whatever rift occurred between Julie and Liz, all seemed well on the face of it during the summer of 1985. The evening before the funerals, Liz stayed the night at Jeremy’s cottage in Goldhanger. Julie and Brett Collins were also at Jeremy’s cottage and in her statement dated 23rd of September 1985 she stated: “I can say that on Thursday, the 15th August 1985, Liz Rimmington stayed overnight at Goldhanger. That evening she was left alone downstairs with Jeremy after Brett and I had gone to bed respectively.” It is possible that Julie suspected and feared that Liz and Jeremy once again had sex when she left them alone. Did this add to Julie’s existing anxieties about Jeremy’s unfaithfulness?
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

 

[Nicholas]

more from Bamber’s website;

“Tuesday 27 August 1985 – In her evidence dated the 8th and 9th of September 1985 Julie claimed that upon her return to Lewisham she went to a pizza restaurant with Sue Battersby, her flat mate and chequebook fraud accomplice, where she told Sue about Jeremy’s involvement in the murders. However, this apparent conversation does not appear in any of Sue’s witness evidence, which raises suspicion that it ever took place at all. Julie had been staying at Jeremy’s cottage in Goldhanger, but because Brett Collins was always, there she moved back to her accommodation in Lewisham on this date. Julie told Essex police that she suspected Jeremy was having a sexual relationship with Brett. [3]


Bamber was having sex with Anji Greaves because she told the nation via her interview with the Sun newspaper

Did Anji Greaves ever suspect Bamber of having sex with Brett Collins ?

[Nicholas]

Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

DS Stan Jones pocket book. PDF “ Called out to Colchester re Bamber to 31 Alexander rd Colchester. The occupant (Malcolm Waters) rang called Rimmimgton & Julie Mugford Take by ?? to CW. (Witham)

[Nicholas]

JM was a victim of abuse

More evidence of the abusive relationship courtesy of the CT website

Sunday 1 September 1985 – Liz’s statement says that Julie had called her in floods of tears wanting to meet up[5]. Liz arranged for Julie to come to her place of work where Julie said that Jeremy had arranged to see her on the previous Saturday but had not turned up. Eventually he’d arrived at Julie’s that evening and said that he 'didn’t want to see her anymore' and that he had only been using her for his ‘own ends

[Nicholas]

From Bamber's CT website:

“Thursday 15 August 1985 – Nevertheless, whatever rift occurred between Julie and Liz, all seemed well on the face of it during the summer of 1985. The evening before the funerals, Liz stayed the night at Jeremy’s cottage in Goldhanger. Julie and Brett Collins were also at Jeremy’s cottage and in her statement dated 23rd of September 1985 she stated: “I can say that on Thursday, the 15th August 1985, Liz Rimmington stayed overnight at Goldhanger. That evening she was left alone downstairs with Jeremy after Brett and I had gone to bed respectively.” It is possible that Julie suspected and feared that Liz and Jeremy once again had sex when she left them alone. Did this add to Julie’s existing anxieties about Jeremy’s unfaithfulness?
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

 

Who wrote all this nonsense - Trudi Benjamin ?