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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1695 on: May 09, 2020, 10:32:16 PM »
Who wrote all this nonsense - Trudi Benjamin ?

From here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk
Sunday 1 September 1985

Is it possible that now Julie had been dumped she was worried that Jeremy and Liz would rekindle their affair and start dating? Could it be likely that Julie wanted to make sure that Liz would not be interested in a relationship with Jeremy and that’s why she made up the story about him ordering a hit man to commit the murders? And was it the fact that her allegations were an invention that stopped Julie from approaching the police, even when she was advised to?

 *&^^&

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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1696 on: May 09, 2020, 10:48:28 PM »
From here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

Sunday 1 September 1985

Is it possible that now Julie had been dumped she was worried that Jeremy and Liz would rekindle their affair and start dating? Could it be likely that Julie wanted to make sure that Liz would not be interested in a relationship with Jeremy and that’s why she made up the story about him ordering a hit man to commit the murders? And was it the fact that her allegations were an invention that stopped Julie from approaching the police, even when she was advised to?

 *&^^&

Who wrote this rubbish ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1697 on: May 10, 2020, 11:44:09 AM »
Liz Rimmington who also had sex with Bamber in 1984 whilst JM was on holiday in France

Saturday 7 September 1985 – In her 8th of September statement Liz says that she persuaded Julie to talk to Malcolm Waters, Liz’s ex-boyfriend, to get some advice. She said: “We arrived at Malcolm's house about 7.30 p.m. and eventually Julie told Malcolm what she had told me[7]. He then told her the same thing that I had told her about informing the police. She eventually agreed to do this.”
“As I didn’t know Julie I started to question her about whether she was saying those things because of her split with Jeremy and I tried to ascertain from her if Jeremy had told her anything which only the murderer would know or if there was anything she had not read in the papers.”


Did Malcolm Waters ever admit to having been duped by Bamber & did he know his ex Liz Rimmington had had sex with Bamber ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1698 on: May 10, 2020, 12:03:53 PM »
Was it not Julie's female flatmate who initially contacted the police?

No idea how Bamber’s CT came to these conclusions

Saturday 7 September 1985 DS Stan Jones was contacted from Malcolm Waters’ home by telephone as recorded in Jones’ pocket notebook and arrangements were made to collect the two girls from Colchester to take them to the police station for questioning.[8] Clearly Julie Mugford did not ‘come forward offering information’ as she was pushed by Liz and Malcolm, and it is highly likely that the phone call to police was made by Malcolm from his home, probably against Julie’s wishes. The hit man story that Julie had made up to poison Liz against Jeremy had spiralled out of control and became the cornerstone of the prosecution case against Jeremy Bamber.

Malcolm Waters: “As I didn’t know Julie I started to question her about whether she was saying those things because of her split with Jeremy and I tried to ascertain from her if Jeremy had told her anything which only the murderer would know or if there was anything she had not read in the papers.

Wasn’t Malcolm Waters the owner of Sloppy Joes where Liz Rimmimgton was the manageress; where Bamber had also worked ?

Was he also the owner of the Frog and Bean wine bar ?

MD and MW sold the wine bar and bought Sloppy Joes
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1699 on: May 10, 2020, 12:44:38 PM »
Saturday 7 September 1985 – In her 8th of September statement Liz says that she persuaded Julie to talk to Malcolm Waters, Liz’s ex-boyfriend, to get some advice. She said: “We arrived at Malcolm's house about 7.30 p.m. and eventually Julie told Malcolm what she had told me[7]. He then told her the same thing that I had told her about informing the police. She eventually agreed to do this.”
“As I didn’t know Julie I started to question her about whether she was saying those things because of her split with Jeremy and I tried to ascertain from her if Jeremy had told her anything which only the murderer would know or if there was anything she had not read in the papers.”


Did Malcolm Waters ever admit to having been duped by Bamber & did he know his ex Liz Rimmington had had sex with Bamber ?

No idea how Bamber’s CT came to these conclusions

Saturday 7 September 1985 DS Stan Jones was contacted from Malcolm Waters’ home by telephone as recorded in Jones’ pocket notebook and arrangements were made to collect the two girls from Colchester to take them to the police station for questioning.[8] Clearly Julie Mugford did not ‘come forward offering information’ as she was pushed by Liz and Malcolm, and it is highly likely that the phone call to police was made by Malcolm from his home, probably against Julie’s wishes. The hit man story that Julie had made up to poison Liz against Jeremy had spiralled out of control and became the cornerstone of the prosecution case against Jeremy Bamber.

Malcolm Waters: “As I didn’t know Julie I started to question her about whether she was saying those things because of her split with Jeremy and I tried to ascertain from her if Jeremy had told her anything which only the murderer would know or if there was anything she had not read in the papers.

Wasn’t Malcolm Waters the owner of Sloppy Joes where Liz Rimmimgton was the manageress; where Bamber had also worked ?

Was he also the owner of the Frog and Bean wine bar ?


“Malcolm told the Star in 1986 that Jeremy was ‘a Walter Mitty type. He dreams up situations and convinces himself it’s true. At certain periods he was very much a loner.’ He sensed that Jeremy ‘was easily led and susceptible to others’ and ‘always looking for affection, especially from girls.’

(From ‘The Murder at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=malcolm+waters+colchester&source=bl&ots=jQH-JZyewW&sig=ACfU3U30rayKNacZiDjpUq3KqVMQKnzlsQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcvt6FmqnpAhWPiFwKHawFAwgQ6AEwAnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20waters%20colchester&f=false)
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1700 on: May 10, 2020, 01:34:09 PM »
“Malcolm told the Star in 1986 that Jeremy was ‘a Walter Mitty type. He dreams up situations and convinces himself it’s true. At certain periods he was very much a loner.’ He sensed that Jeremy ‘was easily led and susceptible to others’ and ‘always looking for affection, especially from girls.’

(From ‘The Murder at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=malcolm+waters+colchester&source=bl&ots=jQH-JZyewW&sig=ACfU3U30rayKNacZiDjpUq3KqVMQKnzlsQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcvt6FmqnpAhWPiFwKHawFAwgQ6AEwAnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20waters%20colchester&f=false)

Wonder if Malcolm Walters senses of Bamber have since changed?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1701 on: May 10, 2020, 01:36:00 PM »
“Malcolm told the Star in 1986 that Jeremy was ‘a Walter Mitty type. He dreams up situations and convinces himself it’s true. At certain periods he was very much a loner.’ He sensed that Jeremy ‘was easily led and susceptible to others’ and ‘always looking for affection, especially from girls.’

(From ‘The Murder at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=malcolm+waters+colchester&source=bl&ots=jQH-JZyewW&sig=ACfU3U30rayKNacZiDjpUq3KqVMQKnzlsQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcvt6FmqnpAhWPiFwKHawFAwgQ6AEwAnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20waters%20colchester&f=false)

Suspect Bamber was looking for his next victim
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1702 on: May 10, 2020, 01:46:51 PM »
From here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

Did Bamber’s CT pay the actresses to perform in the above video?

Has anyone listened to it ? 

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And did JM ever refer to Bamber as the ‘devil incarnate’ ?

If not, why have the CT suggested - via their actresses, she did?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1703 on: May 10, 2020, 02:07:52 PM »
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk

Is it true, following the murders, Bamber ‘still had access to guns’ as suggested in the vid above?
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Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1704 on: May 10, 2020, 02:51:02 PM »
Suspect Bamber was looking for his next victim

Promiscuous.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1705 on: May 10, 2020, 03:02:34 PM »
Promiscuous.

Whatever his ‘motivation, their goals are to manipulate, dominate and control, and they will end up devaluing and abusing their victim.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1706 on: May 10, 2020, 03:39:03 PM »
Who wrote this rubbish ?

Virginia Greaves is even mentioned in Bamber's CT audio BS ?!?

Bamber was ‘seeing’ Anji Greaves NOT her sister Virginia!
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Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1707 on: May 10, 2020, 04:16:25 PM »
Who wrote this rubbish ?

Julie didn't know that Liz slept with Jeremy so whoever did write it, got it wrong.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1708 on: May 10, 2020, 04:33:05 PM »
Julie didn't know that Liz slept with Jeremy so whoever did write it, got it wrong.

And she never smuggled drugs from Canada but that also been repeated in the podcast  *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1709 on: May 10, 2020, 04:35:27 PM »
What does Bamber’s solicitor Mark Newby have to say about all this ?
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