The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Nicholas]

I’m not up to date with all his dalliances; but I’ve seen an article about Anji.  I can’t quite grasp how he had the stamina to have a trio on the go all at one time, and that was the period between him murdering his family and being arrested about six weeks later when he was apparently grief stricken! He kept himself entertained during his mourning, didn’t he?!

And Brett! Wasn’t Brett his secret lover too? Brett alluded to it in the newspaper article some years later...or was he just some bum-fun for Jeremy before dashing off to meet Sue Ford, Virginia, Angie and “steady girlfriend’” Julie?  No wonder he had to visit his GP for the rashes/sores he developed...Oh, I wonder if he informed the Swiss woman he met in France and had back-scratching sex with that he’d discovered those sores? Probably not...

Haven’t read about Ann, but whoever she was she dodged a bullet didn’t she?!

JM wouldn’t let Bamber touch her so guess that’s why he went looking elsewhere

Aunt Agatha said she was with Bamber for 18 years - wonder if he was seeing anyone else during that time that AA didn’t know about?

In addition, Mike never even knew I existed until he found the paperwork!

How many years was it before Mike Tesko found out about AA?

He wanted to protect me as much as possible.  I was his private life and we were given privileges in those days.  We had time alone, had photos taken together...

Yes we did.  We had an officer maybe at one end of the room, sat quite a distance and we were able to do what we wanted, within reason of course.

[Nicholas]

LONG LARTIN PRISON OCTOBER 1993

This is an edited interview with Jeremy Bamber conducted by telephone from Long Lartin prison where he is currently serving five life sentences. Bamber sounded if not convincing, at least convinced. At the top of the letters he writes to his friends and supporters, he puts in capitals how long he has been inside:
2,833 DAYS OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT.

What can you tell me about Sheila? What sort of person was she ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister. Interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic).
http://jimshelley.com/crime/jeremy-bamber-qa/

According to Carol Ann Lee from the book ‘The Murders at White House Farm

‘Jeremy states that he and Sheila were closest, ‘from my being 15 and her 18 or 19, until I was 19 and off to Australia. Those four years were great for both of us and we had lots of good times together. She was so protective of me and really kind and sensitive.’

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PR4&lpg=PR4&dq=carol+ann+lee+author+website&source=bl&ots=jQH-N3HbyW&sig=ACfU3U0A1CQFy0v653CLoUrOPwKUN98-VA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXvN-U7LbpAhVHSsAKHWUaBB04HhDoATAFegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=carol%20ann%20lee%20author%20website&f=false

[ISpyWithMyEye]

JM wouldn’t let Bamber touch her so guess that’s why he went looking elsewhere

Aunt Agatha said she was with Bamber for 18 years - wonder if he was seeing anyone else during that time that AA didn’t know about?

How many years was it before Mike Tesko found out about AA?

I seem to remember AA saying she first wrote to him in 1990, so if that’s true she only knew him through prison visits and letters.

She also said he was Godfather to her twins...which is impossible.

I’ve noticed how her writing style and persona changes too...she’s definitely putting on an act — if she is a SHE...

[Robittybob1]

I seem to remember AA saying she first wrote to him in 1990, so if that’s true she only knew him through prison visits and letters.

She also said he was Godfather to her twins...which is impossible.

I’ve noticed how her writing style and persona changes too...she’s definitely putting on an act — is she is a SHE...

Provide more arguments to support your claims, please.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Provide more arguments to support your claims, please.

I haven’t “claimed” anything — I’ve merely repeated what AA has said on here — that Jeremy Bamber is Godfather to her twin children. You’ll find it in her posts

If you want me to provide more arguments why I don’t believe that, I shall😌

I’ve never been to a christening in a church and seen a prison van pull up with a Cat-A convicted mass-murderer who’d shot dead two little six-year-old boys in their heads while they slept peacefully in their beds cuddling their teddy bears; one sucking his thumb...and who also killed his mother and father, plus his sister too...walk into the church, handcuffed and flanked by prison guards; then step forward and cradle his Godchildren in his arms as the Vicar blessed them all

Have you ever seen that?😳

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Oops, I forgot to add my argument to the other statement you’ve highlighted.

AA said she first “met” Jeremy Bamber in 1990 when she wrote to him. She said it — not me. I’ve merely repeated HER words. You’ll find them all if you go through her posts 😚

[Daisy]

I haven’t “claimed” anything — I’ve merely repeated what AA has said on here — that Jeremy Bamber is Godfather to her twin children. You’ll find it in her posts

If you want me to provide more arguments why I don’t believe that, I shall😌

I’ve never been to a christening in a church and seen a prison van pull up with a Cat-A convicted mass-murderer who’d shot dead two little six-year-old boys in their heads while they slept peacefully in their beds cuddling their teddy bears; one sucking his thumb...and who also killed his mother and father, plus his sister too...walk into the church, handcuffed and flanked by prison guards; then step forward and cradle his Godchildren in his arms as the Vicar blessed them all

Have you ever seen that?😳

https://churchofenglandchristenings.org/for-parents/is-it-possible-to-have-godparents-by-proxy/

[John]

I haven’t “claimed” anything — I’ve merely repeated what AA has said on here — that Jeremy Bamber is Godfather to her twin children. You’ll find it in her posts

If you want me to provide more arguments why I don’t believe that, I shall

I’ve never been to a christening in a church and seen a prison van pull up with a Cat-A convicted mass-murderer who’d shot dead two little six-year-old boys in their heads while they slept peacefully in their beds cuddling their teddy bears; one sucking his thumb...and who also killed his mother and father, plus his sister too...walk into the church, handcuffed and flanked by prison guards; then step forward and cradle his Godchildren in his arms as the Vicar blessed them all

Have you ever seen that?

It was probably an informal arrangement, no doubt AA will clarify if she deems it appropriate.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

https://churchofenglandchristenings.org/for-parents/is-it-possible-to-have-godparents-by-proxy/

Thank you, Daisy

The link you’ve sent states that the Godparent must be present; however, in special circumstances where one can’t attend the Church may allow the absent Godparent to “attend” by Skype. Obviously, this new rule has been made for this day and age and is recent. Regardless, even had that been allowed way back when, Jeremy Bamber isn’t allowed use of the internet — so that couldn’t have happened. Besides the prison not allowing it, the Church would balk at the idea of such a revolting suggestion.

Further, as AA has two twin boys, I can’t see any vicar/priest allowing a convicted double child murderer becoming a Godparent — they expect Godparents to be decent, kind, and to be a part of their godchild’s life, bringing them up in the Christian faith. Furthermore, AA states that Jeremy became religious in prison (like so many do 😌) and became a Muslim. So that too would mean he couldn’t become a Christian Godfather.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

https://churchofenglandchristenings.org/for-parents/is-it-possible-to-have-godparents-by-proxy/

I don’t usually find time to search, but by luck I stumbled upon this written by Aunt Agatha some years back...

She says that Jeremy goes to daily prayers and had become a Muslim

I wonder what made him take up religion?😌

[Robittybob1]

I haven’t “claimed” anything — I’ve merely repeated what AA has said on here — that Jeremy Bamber is Godfather to her twin children. You’ll find it in her posts

If you want me to provide more arguments why I don’t believe that, I shall😌

I’ve never been to a christening in a church and seen a prison van pull up with a Cat-A convicted mass-murderer who’d shot dead two little six-year-old boys in their heads while they slept peacefully in their beds cuddling their teddy bears; one sucking his thumb...and who also killed his mother and father, plus his sister too...walk into the church, handcuffed and flanked by prison guards; then step forward and cradle his Godchildren in his arms as the Vicar blessed them all

Have you ever seen that?😳

It was your words "which is impossible"  that I wanted you to expand on.  Why is that impossible?   Same for the other claim you make.

" if that’s true she only knew him through prison visits and letters."  How did you work that out?

[Brietta]

https://churchofenglandchristenings.org/for-parents/is-it-possible-to-have-godparents-by-proxy/

But it is an ersatz sort of thing and in my opinion quite meaningless as far as being a Godparent is concerned.

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However, if a special person who you wanted to be a godparent is unable to make it to a christening, there is no reason why they can’t be asked to take on a godparent-like role unofficially, and that kind of relationship can be encouraged throughout the child’s life, but they wouldn’t be entered into the Baptism Register after the christening. If the church has the facilities, they could perhaps be linked via Skype or similar software, so they can still see the service.

[Nicholas]

I don’t usually find time to search, but by luck I stumbled upon this written by Aunt Agatha some years back...

She says that Jeremy goes to daily prayers and had become a Muslim

I wonder what made him take up religion?😌

Aunt Agatha states it‘Was solely to meet his own needs’

What was he after - a different food menu ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

But it is an ersatz sort of thing and in my opinion quite meaningless as far as being a Godparent is concerned.

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However, if a special person who you wanted to be a godparent is unable to make it to a christening, there is no reason why they can’t be asked to take on a godparent-like role unofficially, and that kind of relationship can be encouraged throughout the child’s life, but they wouldn’t be entered into the Baptism Register after the christening. If the church has the facilities, they could perhaps be linked via Skype or similar software, so they can still see the service.

That’s a possibility, I guess

Aunt Agatha made Jeremy Bamber her twin sons unofficial Godfather by telling him he was, but as he’s a Muslim he wouldn’t be suitable as a Christian Godparent. And I thought he didn’t like the church and actually hated them all?

I find it quite ironic that Agatha has twin sons — just like Sheila did....

What a coincidence, eh?😳

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Aunt Agatha states it‘Was solely to meet his own needs’

What was he after - a different food menu ?

😂😂😂

I wonder if that was a slip of tongue?

Maybe AA didn’t mean to say what she was thinking?

I know that lots of prisoners become extremely religious and tell everyone they’ve found God...strange, isn’t it?😌

In his case he’s chosen to pray to Allah — so no more bacon sarnies for him!

God, the more that comes out about him the more he fits every trait of a typical life-term prisoner who plays the system...