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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1980 on: December 23, 2021, 08:36:49 AM »
I've never heard such appalling, misleading and lying bull$hit from morons Walker and Hartley in all my life, although it meant suffering seemingly endless musical din and puerile jabbering of the hosts which preceded it.

It’s fascinating how Philip Walker has brought one of Bamber’s victims (SC) back to life and how he desperately attempts to rewrite history.

And fascinating how Yvonne Hartley has been duped by Bamber into seemingly despising Robert B because of the ‘inheritance issues’

Neither of them were there at the time but they talk like they were

And this Bamber was ‘only’ 24 years old BS 🙄. Killer Simon Hall was also ‘only’ 24 years old
https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/12/19/wrongful-convictions-miscarriages-of-justice-innocence-fraud-whats-the-difference/
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Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1981 on: December 23, 2021, 08:51:26 AM »
It’s fascinating how Philip Walker has brought one of Bamber’s victims (SC) back to life and how he desperately attempts to rewrite history
Such as having SC lying severely injured after one shot on the kitchen floor then suddenly fleeing upstairs when she heard the TFU battering down the back door.  Peter Vanezis put an end to that nonsense when he saw the cs photos and examined her body post mortem.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1982 on: December 23, 2021, 09:02:13 AM »
Such as having SC lying severely injured after one shot on the kitchen floor then suddenly fleeing upstairs when she heard the TFU battering down the back door.  Peter Vanezis put an end to that nonsense when he saw the cs photos and examined her body post mortem.

And Philip Walker ‘knows’ what Taff Jones was thinking apparently 🤦‍♀️ and Sheila  *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1983 on: December 23, 2021, 09:14:45 AM »
Carolyn, one of the presenters, has apparently been involved with ‘miscarriages of justice’ for a very long time - so presumably she sees herself as an authority on the subject 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1984 on: December 23, 2021, 09:15:42 AM »
I've never heard such appalling, misleading and lying bull$hit from morons Walker and Hartley in all my life, although it meant suffering seemingly endless musical din and puerile jabbering of the hosts which preceded it.

Did you hear Dennis Eady?👇

Has anyone heard that other moron Dennis Eady here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NxzkdH65B-8
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1985 on: December 23, 2021, 09:29:21 AM »
Such as having SC lying severely injured after one shot on the kitchen floor then suddenly fleeing upstairs when she heard the TFU battering down the back door.  Peter Vanezis put an end to that nonsense when he saw the cs photos and examined her body post mortem.

Some of the family hadn’t seen Sheila for ‘over two years’ apparently according to Yvonne Hartley 🙄

But Yvonne doesn’t seem to comprehend these people had known Sheila, whereas Yvonne hadn’t
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1986 on: December 23, 2021, 09:37:46 AM »
Holly appears to be keeping a dignified silence.

Didn’t Jackie Preece make claim I was Cc?

Speaking of which I’d like to hear from her on Bamber seemingly drug/date raping the girl from the Chequers public house, in the lead up to the murders

”The following day, the girl wondered whether she had been drugged. Feeling ‘shocked, angry and abused’..
(Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee ‘The Murders at White House Farm)

And also on the Anji and Virginia Greaves saga

Bamber appears to have excerpted a great deal of control over both sisters - what does Jackie have to say on this?

Or is this yet another of those elephants in the room for her like it appears to be for other Bamber supporters

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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1987 on: December 23, 2021, 09:55:08 AM »
Or is this yet another of those elephants in the room for her like it appears to be for other Bamber supporters

In reality it appears Bamber was ‘courting’ one, or both of the Greave sisters, before he committed mass murder 

Brett Collins said one of the Greave sisters was due to marry

Anji (Angela) Greaves married that year not Virginia, according to Kay Page

And Anji’s ‘godfather’ conveniently was a lawyer

Brett Collins👇
Erm way before I ever met his girlfriend - his girlfriend and he weren’t what you’d call monogamous friendship he had several girls at the same time that all thought that they err were his girlfriend 

When Brett Collins first came over to the UK to visit Bamber it seems he was introduced to Anji and Virginia Greaves but not to Julie M
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1988 on: December 23, 2021, 10:16:26 AM »
Didn’t Jackie Preece make claim I was Cc?

Speaking of which I’d like to hear from her on Bamber seemingly drug/date raping the girl from the Chequers public house, in the lead up to the murders

And also on the Anji and Virginia Greaves saga

Bamber appears to have excerpted a great deal of control over both sisters - what does Jackie have to say on this?

Or is this yet another of those elephants in the room for her like it appears to be for other Bamber supporters

To quote con women Sandra Lean

If you pick and choose points, you can stitch them together to make what looks like a compelling narrative, so long a no-one comes along and ruins the story by pointing out all of the"missed out" bits that make a nonsense of it.
(Source: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg330669.html#msg330669)

The story of Julie M being a ‘scorned women’ was manufactured by lawyers, in reality Julie M was in a coercive controlling relationship with Bamber, who was also using these same controlling tactics on other women, and men, including Brett Collins - who it’s quite possible Bamber slept with when Brett first visited the UK
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1989 on: December 23, 2021, 10:46:38 AM »
The story of Julie M being a ‘scorned women’ was manufactured by the prosecution lawyers, in reality Julie M was in a coercive controlling relationship with Bamber, who was also using these same controlling tactics on other women, and men, including Brett Collins - who it’s quite possible Bamber slept with when Brett first visited the UK

And for Brett Collins to make the claim

At around 16:22 Brett states,

I think something went wrong’

could suggest he knew of Bambers plans to murder before he committed them

And this statement of Brett Collins will be something the Criminal Cases Review Commission will need to consider if they are carrying out a proper and thorough review

The CCRC appear to be altering how they are putting their statements out into the public domain, compared to past statements made by them on the cases they review
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1990 on: December 23, 2021, 12:02:49 PM »
The CCRC appear to be altering how they are putting their statements out into the public domain, compared to past statements made by them on the cases they review

Which could suggest they are aware innocence fraud is an issue they need to address

Btw ➡️ https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/12/19/wrongful-convictions-miscarriages-of-justice-innocence-fraud-whats-the-difference/
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Offline Common sense

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1991 on: December 23, 2021, 01:11:07 PM »
Didn’t Jackie Preece make claim I was Cc?

Speaking of which I’d like to hear from her on Bamber seemingly drug/date raping the girl from the Chequers public house, in the lead up to the murders

And also on the Anji and Virginia Greaves saga

Bamber appears to have excerpted a great deal of control over both sisters - what does Jackie have to say on this?

Or is this yet another of those elephants in the room for her like it appears to be for other Bamber supporters

I don't think anyone really takes any notice of vile Jackie Preece. Her entire "contribution" can be summed up as baseless circular reasoning:

Jeremy Bamber is innocent so Julie Mugford lied > Julie Mugford lied so Jeremy Bamber is innocent. ( repeat ad nauseum )

If she ever had a nuanced thought, she must have kept that to herself while letting her brain fart all over the internet.

I wonder why she isn't on the campaign team come to think of it.. @)(++(*

 

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1992 on: December 23, 2021, 01:27:20 PM »
I don't think anyone really takes any notice of vile Jackie Preece. Her entire "contribution" can be summed up as baseless circular reasoning:

Jeremy Bamber is innocent so Julie Mugford lied > Julie Mugford lied so Jeremy Bamber is innocent. ( repeat ad nauseum )

If she ever had a nuanced thought, she must have kept that to herself while letting her brain fart all over the internet.

I wonder why she isn't on the campaign team come to think of it.. @)(++(*

She could well be part of the campaign team in one of her many guises on social media  @)(++(*
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1993 on: December 23, 2021, 01:35:44 PM »
I don't think anyone really takes any notice of vile Jackie Preece. Her entire "contribution" can be summed up as baseless circular reasoning:

Jeremy Bamber is innocent so Julie Mugford lied > Julie Mugford lied so Jeremy Bamber is innocent. ( repeat ad nauseum )

If she ever had a nuanced thought, she must have kept that to herself while letting her brain fart all over the internet.

She is the epitome of a moron for sure
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1994 on: December 23, 2021, 02:10:14 PM »
Did you hear Dennis Eady?👇

Has anyone heard that other moron Dennis Eady here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NxzkdH65B-8

Until such time Dennis Eady recognises he was wrong over killer Simon Halls case/campaign/confession (https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/12/19/wrongful-convictions-miscarriages-of-justice-innocence-fraud-whats-the-difference/) it unlikely he’ll ever be able to recognise his quite obvious errors and clear bias in other cases

But I don’t suppose Bambers campaign team members recognise this either

It was reported in 2014 that Dennis Eady, and Julie Price, apparently gave ‘guidance’ to journalist Brian Thornton on the extremely violent and deceptive psychopathic, misogynistic, mass murdering, child killer and sexual deviant David Morris’s case/campaign

Morris’s DNA was recently matched to the sock used by the killer

Statement by Doris, Mandy, Katie & Emily’s family 👇

In June 1999 our much loved Mam, sister Mandy and our nieces Katie and Emily were cruelly taken from us in the most horrific way anyone could ever imagine. The person responsible for these horrific crimes was David George Morris.

"The loss and grief our family went through and continue to go through is heart-breaking and affects so many aspects of lives. No family should ever go through what we have and still do.

"It hasn't been helped by the constant campaigns, protests, incorrect media reports, make-believe books and TV programmes that have mislead some of the public into believing Morris is innocent. These have blatantly ignored proven facts and replaced them with misinformation to hide the truth.

During their investigation, police found a chain at the scene of the murders in Mandy's home, which was worn by the killer. Morris swore on his children’s lives that the chain was not his. Weeks before the first trial, the police found paint between the links of the chain which forensically matched the paint on Morris’s kitchen units/worktops and it was only then that Morris admitted that the chain was his. It was then that Morris made up his alibi for being at Mandy’s that morning.

"Morris’s claim that he was having an affair with Mandy was the foundation of his alibi but this was totally untrue, he was not having an affair with Mandy and was not with her that Friday morning. Phone records and witness statements given in court proved beyond doubt that Morris was not in Mandy’s home that morning. This totally destroyed Morris’s alibi and hence his explanation as to how his chain was found at the murder scene.

"On June 28 2002, Morris was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. Morris then won an appeal based on a conflict of interest only, no new evidence being presented at this hearing.

"The re-trial took place at Newport Crown Court. During this time, we again had to look at Morris and listen to lie after lie. Again, Morris was found guilty. Sitting through both trials and having to listen to what our family went through that night was heart-breaking beyond belief.

"In October last year, a BBC documentary was aired in which Morris’s family and supporters called for an independent review and further forensic testing of various items, including the sock which was found at the scene and which had clearly been used by the killer. Also, this programme contained misleading information which has fuelled further irrelevant questions by the public, an example of which is the statement that Mandy’s body was taken to the bathroom and washed. This is utter nonsense and never happened.

"Scientific testing has come a long way in the last 22 years and on October 18 the police confirmed there was scientific evidence of David Morris on the sock; sadly Morris’s family and supporters are refusing to accept these latest findings done by an independent forensic laboratory, which is what they called for.

"We now feel that it is time that they accept that Morris murdered our family and finally let them rest in peace."
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