Panorama Special on 10th Anniversary

[ShiningInLuz]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08pmtb1

Madeleine McCann: 10 Years On
Panorama

Madeleine McCann is the world's most famous missing person. Her disappearance ten years ago has been investigated by police forces in two different countries, but they came up with contradictory conclusions. So what really happened to Madeleine in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz?

Reporter Richard Bilton, who has covered the story for the BBC since the first days, examines the evidence and tracks down the men British police have questioned about the case.


I don't think Panorama will be interviewing any non-English-speaking witnesses. As to whether they door-stepped anyone, we'll have to wait & see. I think there will be little of any real relevance, given Rowley's comments earlier this week.

To clarify, I don't think door-stepping (which seems to the phrase pf the week) has owt to do with Panorama.  The connection was collateral damage.

The men British police have questioned?  AFAIK the total OG claims is large.  So we need to wait and see.

Little of any real relevance?  We are in the season of promises of blockbuster revelations.  I am still waiting for the first.  But I am not expecting.

[Alfie]

Didn't Rowley say the latest arguidos are innocent.  If so what the hell is the BBC  doing chasing them?   They weren't very adept at rooting out their own paedophile presenters.

I doubt innocent was the word used.  Have the McCanns been declared innocent in your view?

[barrier]

I did a thread about who entered the apartment on the forum.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7824.0
In the last few pages we looked into this other couple.

Nothing there about another couple visiting a couple of nights before,how about a link to the files concerning a witness statement.

[Robittybob1]

Nothing there about another couple visiting a couple of nights before,how about a link to the files concerning a witness statement.

Is that right?  The posts could have been moderated off the thread, if that was the case I'll see if I can find the link.  It was an article in the papers, obviously this information isn't in the file, but I believe the file was cultured to produce a certain result.

[barrier]

Is that right?  The posts could have been moderated off the thread, if that was the case I'll see if I can find the link.  It was an article in the papers, obviously this information isn't in the file, but I believe the file was cultured to produce a certain result.

Wouldn't it be easier to say there is no cite,or perhaps I'll make it easier in future by asking where in the files can this be found.

[Robittybob1]

Nothing there about another couple visiting a couple of nights before,how about a link to the files concerning a witness statement.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7824.msg369623#msg369623

[barrier]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7824.msg369623#msg369623

Thanks,but its tittle tattle much like the Mail telling us today that cuddle cat was taken and twin boys left in 5a.

[Robittybob1]

Thanks,but its tittle tattle much like the Mail telling us today that cuddle cat was taken and twin boys left in 5a.

"... Cuddle cat was taken and twin boys left in 5a."
Are those genuine claims in articles or just some hypothetical example?

[barrier]

"... uddle cat was taken and twin boys left in 5a."
Are those genuine claims in articles or just some hypothetical example?

Read and weep.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4459530/Prime-suspect-Madeleine-McCann-case-WOMAN.html

Madeleine's younger twin brothers were still in the apartment and her favourite Cuddle Cat teddy, which she took everywhere, was gone.

[Benice]

The Sun appears to accept this claim as sacrosanct but the evidence tells a different story as Madeleine was heard to cry for over an hour on a previous night by the homeowner who resided permanently above the holiday apartment.

Even Amaral in his book does not name Mrs Fenn as the person who heard a child crying - and that's because she didn't name any child in her statement.

When she said she didn't want to upset the parents, that does not necessarily mean she was sure it was Madeleine -  as it  could just as easily mean she didn't want to upset the parents in case it wasn't Madeleine whom she heard.

Very similar to Jane Tanner  - who although she told the police what she had seen,  didn't want to tell Kate at that stage  - in case it wasn't Madeleine who she'd seen being being carried away.

IOW neither of them wanted to add to the fear and anxiety already being experienced by Kate and Gerry at that time - in case they were wrong.

AIMHO

 

[Robittybob1]

Read and weep.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4459530/Prime-suspect-Madeleine-McCann-case-WOMAN.html

What is wrong with that?  I hope Kate is finally answering one of those infamous questions - what did she see? 
Of course the twins were left in the apartment.  What is so strange about that?

Twin brothers - OH they must have been talking to Amaral, he was the first, that I recall, saying they were twin brothers.

[jassi]

What is wrong with that?  I hope Kate is finally answering one of those infamous questions - what did she see? 
Of course the twins were left in the apartment.  What is so strange about that?

Twin brothers - OH they must have been talking to Amaral, he was the first I recall saying they were twin brothers.

10 years on you would expect that they could get basic facts correct.

[barrier]

What is wrong with that?  I hope Kate is finally answering one of those infamous questions - what did she see? 
Of course the twins were left in the apartment.  What is so strange about that?

Twin brothers - OH they must have been talking to Amaral, he was the first, that I recall, saying they were twin brothers.

Maybe the standard of reporting in acceptable where you reside.

[barrier]

What is wrong with that?  I hope Kate is finally answering one of those infamous questions - what did she see? 
Of course the twins were left in the apartment.  What is so strange about that?

Twin brothers - OH they must have been talking to Amaral, he was the first, that I recall, saying they were twin brothers.

10 years on you would expect that they could get basic facts correct.

Not forgetting the cat which was left behind not taken.

[Robittybob1]

Even Amaral in his book does not name Mrs Fenn as the person who heard a child crying - and that's because she didn't name any child in her statement.

When she said she didn't want to upset the parents, that does not necessarily mean she was sure it was Madeleine -  as it  could just as easily mean she didn't want to upset the parents in case it wasn't Madeleine whom she heard.

Very similar to Jane Tanner  - who although she told the police what she had seen,  didn't want to tell Kate at that stage  - in case it wasn't Madeleine who she'd seen being being carried away.

IOW neither of them wanted to add to the fear and anxiety already being experienced by Kate and Gerry at that time - in case they were wrong.

AIMHO

 

Wasn't the Fenn's apartment above the Payne's apartment?  It could have been the Payne's child crying, for there was no proof (independent verification) that the child monitoring device was actually working that night.

Maybe the standard of reporting in acceptable where you reside.

I take that to be some sort of insult toward New Zealanders. 

Not forgetting the cat which was left behind not taken.

Does it actually say it was taken?  No it doesn't  just says "gone".