Panorama Special on 10th Anniversary

[jassi]

Wasn't the Fenn's apartment above the Payne's apartment?  It could have been the Payne's child crying, for there was no proof (independent verification) that the child monitoring device was actually working that night.
I take that to be some sort of insult toward New Zealanders. 
Does it actually say it was taken?  No it doesn't  just says "gone".

Are you suggesting it woke & wandered?   &%+((£

[Robittybob1]

Are you suggesting it woke & wandered?   &%+((£

No but that is a rather an imaginative solution.

[barrier]

I take that to be some sort of insult toward New Zealanders. 

Not at all,just getting the retaliation in first before the Lions are beat. *&*%£

[Robittybob1]

Not at all,just getting the retaliation in first before the Lions are beat. *&*%£

The Lions are always treated as a formidable team.

[barrier]

Wasn't the Fenn's apartment above the Payne's apartment?  It could have been the Payne's child crying, for there was no proof (independent verification) that the child monitoring device was actually working that night.
I take that to be some sort of insult toward New Zealanders. 
Does it actually say it was taken?  No it doesn't  just says "gone".

Why are you quoting two different posters when we are talking of two different things.

[Robittybob1]

Why are you quoting two different posters when we are talking of two different things.

It is the way the forum works.  Go back to my original post it will be clear.

[Angelo222]

Wasn't the Fenn's apartment above the Payne's apartment?  It could have been the Payne's child crying, for there was no proof (independent verification) that the child monitoring device was actually working that night.

You are wrong Rob.  Have you not seen the photo of Mrs Fenn looking over her balcony straight onto 5a below?

Mrs Fenn lived permanently directly above the McCanns holiday apartment so could identify with unusual sounds and activity. She heard the McCanns patio door open and the crying stopped instantly. Was that another coincidence?

[Robittybob1]

You are wrong Rob.  Have you not seen the photo of Mrs Fenn looking over her balcony straight onto 5a below?

Mrs Fenn lived permanently directly above the McCanns holiday apartment so could identify with unusual sounds and activity. She heard the McCanns patio door open and the crying stopped instantly. Was that another coincidence?

Thanks for the correction.  I wasn't sure but you are obviously correct, so the Payne apartment must have been alongside Pamella Fenn's apartment.

[Mr Gray]

You are wrong Rob.  Have you not seen the photo of Mrs Fenn looking over her balcony straight onto 5a below?

Mrs Fenn lived permanently directly above the McCanns holiday apartment so could identify with unusual sounds and activity. She heard the McCanns patio door open and the crying stopped instantly. Was that another coincidence?

and how good is her judgeemnt regarding time

[Robittybob1]

You are wrong Rob.  Have you not seen the photo of Mrs Fenn looking over her balcony straight onto 5a below?

Mrs Fenn lived permanently directly above the McCanns holiday apartment so could identify with unusual sounds and activity. She heard the McCanns patio door open and the crying stopped instantly. Was that another coincidence?

You would think that Kate or Gerry would have been aware that the kids were awake if this was the case.  Could this be another incident of someone else coming in to comfort the kids without the McCanns being aware of it?

[Heriberto Janosch]

Does anyone of you remember the woman with a strange behaviour close to the crime, who someone said had probably a mental illness?

If so a reference, please.

[barrier]

and how good is her judgeemnt regarding time

Was,she is no longer with us.

[pathfinder73]

Even Amaral in his book does not name Mrs Fenn as the person who heard a child crying - and that's because she didn't name any child in her statement.

When she said she didn't want to upset the parents, that does not necessarily mean she was sure it was Madeleine -  as it  could just as easily mean she didn't want to upset the parents in case it wasn't Madeleine whom she heard.

Very similar to Jane Tanner  - who although she told the police what she had seen,  didn't want to tell Kate at that stage  - in case it wasn't Madeleine who she'd seen being being carried away.

IOW neither of them wanted to add to the fear and anxiety already being experienced by Kate and Gerry at that time - in case they were wrong.

AIMHO

 

Mrs Fenn said it was not a child of 2 or younger which rules the twins out. Madeleine was their older daughter that she heard crying for her Daddy. Madeleine was missing so she didn't mention it to the McCanns to increase their suffering.

[ShiningInLuz]

Just for clarity, the article fecks up on CuddleCat gone.

But it says twin siblings, not brothers.  And the twins were indeed Madeleine's siblings.

 

[misty]

Does anyone of you remember the woman with a strange behaviour close to the crime, who someone said had probably a mental illness?

If so a reference, please.

Do you mean the cleaner (?) who lived about 30km away in whose house were children's toys & a drawing but no child?