Operation Grange announcement imminent.

[stephen25000]

It confirms that they weren't investigated, in a case where how the disappearance occurred remains undetermined.

By any logic in an open case, all possibilities should  be open to investigation.

[ferryman]

A very good point indeed. I do find it very hard to believe that a missing child would be considered by the foreign signals to be a threat to the constitution requiring their specialist services. It's far easier to believe the embassy officials called in consultants and crisis management specialists than military signals.

Additionally, what would signals be expected to do?

I'm not so sure, you know.

I reckon decent UK citizens probably do need protection from hostile foreign elements like Goncalo Amaral ....

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/

[The Singularity]

I'm not so sure, you know.

I reckon decent UK citizens probably do need protection from hostile foreign elements like Goncalo Amaral ....

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/

MI5 is domestic intelligence ferryman, if any services were involved it would have been MI6 or one of the more clandestine operational signals which makes it even more unlikely as Madeline disappearing was not a direct threat to the crown or sovereignty

[ferryman]

MI5 is domestic intelligence ferryman, if any services were involved it would have been MI6 or one of the more clandestine operational signals which makes it even more unlikely as Madeline disappearing was not a direct threat to the crown or sovereignty

I was being facetious, TS o;)

[The Singularity]

I was being facetious, TS o;)

Ah sorry missed that 

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[G-Unit]

ITV lunchtime news; still expecting an announcement from SY later today.

[ferryman]

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-hunt-police-pursuing-significant-line-of-inquiry-ten-years-on-1-8510401

British detectives working on the Madeleine McCann case are still pursuing “critical” leads as the 10th anniversary of her disappearance approaches, a Scotland Yard chief has revealed.

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said there are “significant investigative avenues” that are of “great interest” to both the UK and Portuguese teams.

A joint Portuguese-Anglo enquiry

Gerry and Kate McCann whose daughter Madeleine disappeared from a holiday flat in Portugal ten years ago.
Gerry and Kate McCann whose daughter Madeleine disappeared from a holiday flat in Portugal ten years ago.
Officers have sifted through some 40,000 documents and looked at more than 600 individuals since 2011.

In an interview nearly a decade on from the youngster’s disappearance, Mr Rowley also confirmed that four people considered as possible suspects in 2013 have been ruled out.

Kate and Gerry not amongst them

Madeleine vanished from the family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on May 3 2007 when she was three years old.

Her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have vowed to “never give up” hope of finding their daughter.

Asked if police were any closer to solving the case than they were six years ago when the UK investigation was launched, Mr Rowley said: “I know we have a significant line of inquiry which is worth pursuing, and because it’s worth pursuing it could provide an answer, but until we’ve gone through it I won’t know whether we are going to get there or not.

“Ourselves and the Portuguese are doing a critical piece of work and we don’t want to spoil it by putting titbits of information out publicly.”

A joint enquiry

He declined to expand on the nature of the working theories or reveal whether any suspects were currently being considered, saying that disclosing further detail would not help the investigation.

Mr Rowley said: “We’ve got some critical lines of inquiry, those link to particular hypotheses, but I’m not going to discuss those because those are very much live investigation.

“We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we are pursuing those.”

He described the possibility of a “burglary gone wrong” as a “sensible hypothesis” which has not been “entirely ruled out”.

Clearly Kate and Gerry not suspects

The senior officer was asked about the theory of a sex predator being responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.

Mr Rowley said: “That’s been one key line of inquiry. The reality is in the modern world in any urban area if you cast your net widely you will find a whole pattern of offences.

“You will find sex offenders who live nearby. And those coincidences need to be sifted out, what’s a coincidence and what may be linked to the investigation that you are currently doing.

“Offences which may be linked have to be looked at and either ruled in or ruled out.”

Mr Rowley said there was still a “lot unknown” in the case, adding: “All the different hypotheses have to remain open.”

Police have looked at more than 600 individuals who were identified as being potentially significant to Madeleine’s disappearance.

In 2013 the team identified four people as suspects in the case. Interviews and searches were carried out but no evidence was found to implicate the four in the disappearance.

Mr Rowley said they are no longer the subject of further investigation and have been ruled out of the inquiry.

Meanwhile, police working on the case continue to receive information on a daily basis.

Mr Rowley said: “Thousands of pieces of information have come forward, some useful, some not, but amongst that have been some nuggets that have thrown some extra light on the original material that came from the time.

“That’s one of the things that’s helped us make progress and have some critical lines of inquiry we want to pursue today.”

Mr Rowley said there was no “definitive evidence” as to whether Madeleine is alive or dead.

No definitive evidence of Madeleine's fate

He added: “That’s why we describe it as a missing person inquiry. We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.”

The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

Madeleine was abducted.  'Woke and wandered' ruled out.

“She wasn’t old enough to make a decision to set off and start her own life,” he said.

The assistant commissioner pledged that the investigation team will do all they can to provide an answer for Madeleine’s parents.

Kate and Gerry in the loop.  Not suspects.

He said: “I so wish I could say we will definitely solve it but a small number of cases sadly don’t get solved.

“What I’ve always said on this case, and I’ve said it to Kate and Gerry as well, we will do everything reasonably possible to try and find an answer.

Kate and Gerry not suspects.

“I just can’t quite guarantee it. It always hurts that you can’t guarantee success but we will do everything we reasonably can do to try and get there.”

Around 30 detectives were working on the UK probe, Operation Grange, when it was established in 2011. The team has now been scaled back to four detectives.

Last month the Home Office confirmed £85,000 was being given to the inquiry to cover operational costs from April to September. More than £11 million has been spent on the inquiry so far.

Mr Rowley insisted the investigation has achieved “an awful lot”.

He said: “I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes. What we started with here was something extraordinary.

“We’ve achieved a complete understanding of it all. We’ve sifted out many of the potential suspects, many of the people of interest and where we are today is with a much smaller team focused on a small number of remaining critical lines of inquiry that we think are significant.”

Asked about the cost of the investigation, he said: “Big cases can take a lot of resources and a lot of time.

“We’ve tried to be careful about public money and as we’ve started with that massive sifting we’ve reduced the number of resources and the funding’s reduced accordingly.

“But we will stick with it as long as the funding’s available and as long as there are sensible lines of inquiry to pursue.”

Who, now is going to speculate that Kate and Gerry are suspects?

[stephen25000]

There will be a spokesman from SY on LBC radio at 9 pm today.

The Clive Bull program.

[John]

If this latest effort from SY is anything to go by nothing has changed for all the millions they have spent on this case while sitting on their backsides in London.  Bottom line is they still haven't a baldy clue what happened to Madeleine McCann and the clues are all there in the language used in the Evening Post article.

Any serious investigation of a missing child would see an office set up in the area from where they disappeared.  I'm afraid nobody is fooled by SY and their bland excuses.

The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

“She wasn’t old enough to make a decision to set off and start her own life,” he said.

The child was 3-years-old so what sort of a comment was this?  A totally inappropriate and very sarcastic one.

[ferryman]

If this latest effort from SY is anything to go by nothing has changed for all the millions they have spent on this case while sitting on their backsides in London.  Bottom line is they still haven't a baldy clue what happened to Madeleine McCann and the clues are all there in the language used in the Evening Post article.

Any serious investigation of a missing child would see an office set up in the area from where they disappeared.  I'm afraid nobody is fooled by SY and their bland excuses.

It does make clear that the conclusions reached around September 2007 are completely wrong.

That is, not all the conclusions, but, specifically, the conclusions of the Almeida Interim report.

[misty]

If this latest effort from SY is anything to go by nothing has changed for all the millions they have spent on this case while sitting on their backsides in London.  Bottom line is they still haven't a baldy clue what happened to Madeleine McCann and the clues are all there in the language used in the Evening Post article.

Any serious investigation of a missing child would see an office set up in the area from where they disappeared.  I'm afraid nobody is fooled by SY and their bland excuses.

Not one major media outlet televised this "update" then?

[John]

It does make clear that the conclusions reached around September 2007 are completely wrong.

That is, not all the conclusions, but, specifically, the conclusions of the Almeida Interim report.

I fear they are groping in the dark fm.

As seen in the latest documentary from Channel 7, an increasing number of seasoned investigators are coming to the conclusion that she got out and met with an accident.  Abduction and concealment of a cadaver was then a very real possibility to cover up such an accident.  Certainly the evidence from two sniffer dogs places fresh scent across the road from mini reception where it mysteriously disappeared just like Madeleine.

If this theory is ever proved it will create some difficulty for the parents.

[Angelo222]

I fear they are groping in the dark fm.

As seen in the latest documentary from Channel 7, an increasing number of seasoned investigators are coming to the conclusion that she got out and met with an accident.  Abduction and concealment of a cadaver was then a very real possibility to cover up such an accident.  Certainly the evidence from two sniffer dogs places fresh scent across the road from mini reception where it mysteriously disappeared just like Madeleine.

If this theory is ever proved it will create some difficulty for the parents.

My theory has always been that she woke and wandered immediately after Gerry visit to check on her and the twins. She maybe heard him go out and followed hearing his voice outside.  There were reports of a parked car in the street, maybe she just ran out in front of someone who had drink on them?

[Mr Gray]

My theory has always been that she woke and wandered immediately after Gerry visit to check on her and the twins. She maybe heard him go out and followed hearing his voice outside.

Then why did the archiving report say physically this was unlikely..