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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2017, 10:34:53 AM »
I have no idea how these things work, so I can't answer that question. I do know that in most hierarchical organisations your duty is to follow the orders of your superiors.

It is very easy to blow the whistle if you do not agree with what you are being asked to do
Anonymously on the net would be perfect
It seems every member of the met is happy with the way Grange is being run
Not one dissenting post
If the McCanns had not been investigated do you think we would not have heard by now
It's ludicrous to suggest we wouldnt

Offline Benice

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2017, 10:42:47 AM »
I was disappointed that GA didn't go further into the MI5 theory.

One thing is for sure IMO - and that is if MI5 did have any involvement - no-one (including Amaral) would ever know a thing about it.    It's not called the secret service for nothing. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2017, 10:44:35 AM »
One thing is for sure IMO - and that is if MI5 did have any involvement - no-one (including Amaral) would ever know a thing about it.    It's not called the secret service for nothing.
Well I can't argue against that. 
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Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2017, 10:44:48 AM »
I have no idea how these things work, so I can't answer that question. I do know that in most hierarchical organisations your duty is to follow the orders of your superiors.
I can't think of any reason on God's earth why those in charge of Operation Grange would be ordered to overlook any evidence pointing at the McCanns' involvement in their child's disappearance can you?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2017, 10:47:48 AM »
I can't think of any reason on God's earth why those in charge of Operation Grange would be ordered to overlook any evidence pointing at the McCanns' involvement in their child's disappearance can you?

For once we are in agreement Alfie.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2017, 11:53:49 AM »
It is very easy to blow the whistle if you do not agree with what you are being asked to do
Anonymously on the net would be perfect
It seems every member of the met is happy with the way Grange is being run
Not one dissenting post
If the McCanns had not been investigated do you think we would not have heard by now
It's ludicrous to suggest we wouldnt

In order to whistle-blow you need to be in possession of all the facts. You then need to be brave enough to accept that it could seriously damage your job/promotion prospects. It's not an easy decision at all, it's a very difficult one.

Posting anonymously on the internet is no good; no-one will believe it.

If the McCanns have been investigated and cleared by Operation Grange why don't SY say so and end the speculation? The point of the investigative review was to help the parents, according to Cameron. How better than to announce they have been investigated and cleared? 
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Offline The Singularity

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2017, 11:56:43 AM »
One thing is for sure IMO - and that is if MI5 did have any involvement - no-one (including Amaral) would ever know a thing about it.    It's not called the secret service for nothing.

A very good point indeed. I do find it very hard to believe that a missing child would be considered by the foreign signals to be a threat to the constitution requiring their specialist services. It's far easier to believe the embassy officials called in consultants and crisis management specialists than military signals.

Additionally, what would signals be expected to do?

Offline jassi

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2017, 11:58:28 AM »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2017, 12:02:24 PM »
Is this the announcement we are waiting for, or old news dressed up as new?


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-hunt-police-pursuing-significant-line-of-inquiry-ten-years-on-1-8510401

He says however Maddie left the apartment she was abducted

Offline jassi

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2017, 12:04:36 PM »
Which fits in with the abduction-only remit
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2017, 12:06:15 PM »
Abduction, yet again, is a belief.

That is all it is.

stephen25000

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Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2017, 12:09:08 PM »
Is this the announcement we are waiting for, or old news dressed up as new?


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-hunt-police-pursuing-significant-line-of-inquiry-ten-years-on-1-8510401

To use a phrase that could have been said by Clouseau.

The statement says everything, but nothing at all.

Offline lordpookles

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2017, 12:24:15 PM »
Well, that simply says they are still investigating and won't discuss any details. If you think about it an abduction could mean anything. I think after all this time all options are viable and as I heard Barclay say in a soundbite on the Australian documentary it's virtually impossible in this case to give more weight to one theory over another - at least on the info we have. Spare a thought for the McCanns - if they are not responsible than they have endured some bullshit and it goes to show how folks love a witch hunt.
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Offline jassi

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2017, 12:29:43 PM »
Not convinced it is today's promised announcement as it appeared very early and doesn't seem to have been picked up by any of the major tabloids.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: Operation Grange announcement imminent.
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2017, 12:57:38 PM »
There is no update yet on the Met website on the OG page.