Author Topic: HOPES DASHED? Madeleine McCann’s parents given ‘false hope" - Mark Williams-Thomas.  (Read 8322 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

I would hazard a guess that the PJ are only applying lip service to any enquiry while the Met is about to close the last remaining leads.
I would agree with you about the pj...hopefully the MET will find something but the chances are slim.

Offline John

Emphasis on words hazard and a guess.

Based on known criteria I would say pretty accurate.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Based on known criteria I would say pretty accurate.

i felt from the word go taht the pj simply pretended to have new evidence to open the case so as not to look to be lapdogs to SY

Offline John

I would agree with you about the pj...hopefully the MET will find something but the chances are slim.

Agreed but instead of wasting money on deadend theories they should be actively encouraging anyone with information about Madeleine's whereabouts to provide that information and through a third party if necessary.

That said however, the Met are offering a reward payable on the conviction of Madeleine's abductor and not for her safe return which in really appalling.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2017, 03:31:38 PM »
Kept closely in the loop?

In an active police investigation?

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2017, 03:43:21 PM »
What's up, old man?

Offline jassi

Agreed but instead of wasting money on deadend theories they should be actively encouraging anyone with information about Madeleine's whereabouts to provide that information and through a third party if necessary.

That said however, the Met are offering a reward payable on the conviction of Madeleine's abductor and not for her safe return which in really appalling.

Maybe they realise that would be a waste of time
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Brietta

I was being facetious, John.  I don't expect anyone to do this.  Least of all The McCanns.


I don't think there is anything new in knowledge of the existence of these wells around Praia da Luz.

In the Dispatches documentary "Searching for Madeleine" of 18 October 2007 some of these wells were looked at by a police search expert, Gary Lig. 

He knew there were hundreds of them; and having looked into one noted "water and a confined space" which would have required specialist searchers experienced in both: he didn't think there should have been a problem in inspecting them.

So actually no reason why they couldn't have been inspected either by specialist searchers or cameras. 

On the forum we have had a discussion on this as well (no pun intended) as the preponderance of septic tanks in the area.

So no mystery about the wells, Mr Luckman wasn't letting us in on anything we didn't already know about.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

don't agree at all...we don't know these leads will lead nowhere...they may well do but without hope helps people cope...it actually lessens the torment

Well they seem to be without evidence.
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Alfie

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Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2017, 04:35:47 PM »
Cite.

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There's no point providing a cite - you'll simply say the papers are making it up. 

Alfie

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Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2017, 04:38:41 PM »
So SIL thinks that the McCanns are kept as much in the dark about what's happening within Operation Grange as Joe Public - is that standard practice in missing persons cases?  The police don't keep the families updated, so they have to read about developments in the paper like everyone else?

Offline Benice

Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2017, 04:49:46 PM »
So SIL thinks that the McCanns are kept as much in the dark about what's happening within Operation Grange as Joe Public - is that standard practice in missing persons cases?  The police don't keep the families updated, so they have to read about developments in the paper like everyone else?

I think it's far more likely that the McCanns have a 'dedicated'  Family Liaison Officer to keep them informed. 

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Alfie

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From 2015 http://news.met.police.uk/news/update-on-the-investigation-into-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-135459

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, from the MPS said: "The Met investigation has been painstaking and thorough and has for the first time brought together in one place what was disparate information across the world.

"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing and ensure every possible measure is being taken to find out what happened to her.

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case. We have given this assurance to Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.

"The Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry. They have extended every courtesy to Operation Grange and we maintain a close working relationship. I know they remain fully committed to investigating Madeleine's disappearance with support from the Metropolitan Police.

"The Met was asked to take on this exceptional case as one of national interest. We were happy to bring our expertise to bear only on the basis that it would not detract from the policing of London; and the Home Office have additionally funded the investigation above normal grants to the Met. That will continue at the reduced level.

"I have overseen this investigation since 2012 and am very grateful for the enormous assistance of the media and public so far which, through the appeals, have generated new information and lines of Inquiry. "

Our decision and rationale has been discussed with Mr and Mrs McCann.

Mr and Mrs McCann said: "We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years. The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt.

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.

"Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced.

"We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.

"Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry. "

Like I said.  In the loop.

Offline G-Unit

Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2017, 06:00:03 PM »
I think it's far more likely that the McCanns have a 'dedicated'  Family Liaison Officer to keep them informed.

Hopefully one that they want. They rejected the LP ones, didn't they?

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Offline Eleanor

Re: HOPES DASHED?
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2017, 06:03:01 PM »