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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2017, 03:17:24 PM »
I appreciate there can be both sides to an argument, but what applies to both sides?  I don't get what you are meaning sorry.

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2017, 06:45:46 PM »
Unrecorded discussions which support a position.
If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"?  Was it his wife?  She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations.  Could it be Jez himself making that claim?   It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2017, 09:37:45 AM »
If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"?  Was it his wife?  She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations.  Could it be Jez himself making that claim?   It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.
Has no one got a moment to comment on this thread?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2017, 10:09:14 AM »
If Joe Blogs was being spoken to and two different reporters ended up reporting Joe as saying two totally opposing positions that in my opinion would raise the alarm bells.
So who could possibly know that "Jez has repeatedly told the police that Gerry is innocent"?  Was it his wife?  She could be a party hearing these repeated conversations.  Could it be Jez himself making that claim?   It is hardly likely to be the police making that statement.

What is clear is that Jes Wilkins didn't say it to any newspaper. If someone else had said it they would have been named. It seems to be a random statement with no source whatsoever being quoted.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2017, 10:19:09 AM »
What is clear is that Jes Wilkins didn't say it to any newspaper. If someone else had said it they would have been named. It seems to be a random statement with no source whatsoever being quoted.
So do you think any part of it is truth, or is it all propaganda?
"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007."  Date is wrong, but address could be correct.

 "TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing."  If they had used the word found missing I'd say that was true.  Otherwise how does the author know when Madeleine went missing.

 "Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children."  Can't be confirmed.

 "Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence." Appears to be a self promoting statement.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2017, 11:24:59 AM »
The truth;

Yesterday Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell-who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son-said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2017, 11:57:26 AM »
The truth;

Yesterday Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell-who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son-said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
So what about their daughter. wasn't she there too? 
"Bridget O'Donnell :My months with Madeleine" was published Friday 14 December 2007 11.54 GMT

In a separate article Joana Morais writes:
"by Joana Morais 9 years ago
Previously on the Mccann's case:"Wilkins was refusing to expand on what he has told police. His girlfriend Bridget O'Donnell —who was in Praia da Luz with the producer and their eight-month-old son—said: "We have decided it's not appropriate to talk about what happened."
Wilkins' pal added: "He came back from the holiday totally shell-shocked. He was part of a British crowd which included the McCanns who became friends as they holidayed in Portugal."
Why would he be shell shocked?

Yet in an article By Dominic Herbert & Ross Hall on the 16 September 2007 the same words are used. (source http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id414.htm)

From the PJ files "Jeremy and Bridget have been married for several years and have two children, XXXX (F) 3 yrs and XXXX (M) 8 months."


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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2017, 12:24:17 PM »
Bridget makes it clear here "It was a welcome spring break, a chance to relax at a child-friendly resort in Portugal. Soon Bridget O’Donnell and her partner were making friends with another holidaying family while their three-year-old daughters played together. But then Madeleine McCann went missing and everyone was sucked into a nightmare."  http://truthofthelie.com/2007/12/my-months-with-madeleine/
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2017, 12:34:25 PM »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2017, 04:08:55 PM »
Has no one got a moment to comment on this thread?

I am very uneasy about discussing a witness in this case in the manner in which it is being done.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2017, 06:01:41 PM »
I am very uneasy about discussing a witness in this case in the manner in which it is being done.
Who wrote the caption? 
"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence.?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2017, 06:52:32 AM »
 So who is this friend of Jez whom to Jez has revealed so much? It is quoted as "A friend said: "He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare."
"He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared.""  Refer to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fgLoPJTj

What would be enough to make a guy to be in an "unimaginable nightmare", and to be "totally shell-shocked". How would you explain Jez' reaction?
From his statements in the PJ file there is nothing that would result in the feeling of devastation IMO.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2017, 07:54:14 AM »
So who is this friend of Jez whom to Jez has revealed so much? It is quoted as "A friend said: "He believes they are a decent family caught up in an unimaginable nightmare."
"He came back from holiday totally shell-shocked. He played tennis with Gerry the day before Madeleine disappeared.""  Refer to http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482157/Madeleine-The-vital-witness-help-clear-McCanns-name.html#ixzz4fgLoPJTj

What would be enough to make a guy to be in an "unimaginable nightmare", and to be "totally shell-shocked". How would you explain Jez' reaction?
From his statements in the PJ file there is nothing that would result in the feeling of devastation IMO.

I can't prove it but when anonymous 'friends' are quoting I think they may or may not exist. The description of Jes' reaction therefore may or may not be true. What is true is that he played tennis with Gerry the same day that Madeleine disappeared, so the 'friend' wasn't all that well-informed.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2017, 08:32:14 AM »
I can't prove it but when anonymous 'friends' are quoting I think they may or may not exist. The description of Jes' reaction therefore may or may not be true. What is true is that he played tennis with Gerry the same day that Madeleine disappeared, so the 'friend' wasn't all that well-informed.
I wonder if the expression the day before covers the actual situation that you describe too.  Jez, I believe, was Jewish and their day finishes at sunset.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Who wrote this caption? Jeremy Wilkins.
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2018, 07:00:36 PM »
"Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence."
https://www.spokeo.com/Jeremy-Wilkin/Famous-Actor/Sep+17+2007+Other+Photos+Album#68425821
Key witness in the Madeleine McCann case, Jeremy Wilkins, leaves his home in Willesden, North West London to take his daughter to nursery on September 18th, 2007. TV producer Jeremy Wilkins was on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May and spoke to Gerry McCann during the hour when Madeleine went missing. Mr Wilkins said he found Mr McCann calm and unflustered during a 15-minute conversation which took place while Mr McCann was on his way back to the resort's tapas restaurant after checking on his three children. Mr Wilkins has repeatedly told police he is convinced of the McCanns' innocence.

OK the text is 100% the same but the photos are different to what I remember.  Each photo has been cropped to take the other person out of the photo.
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