Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine

[stephen25000]

No I am not calling him a liar - read my post again.  Why he has an axe to grind I don't know but he has a track record of being critical of the Met on his blog for the last 6 years, which is fair enough but worth considering that he seems to have a pre-existing bias against them.   I don't think there is anything sinister about the alleged fact that the McCanns were not interviewed again as suspects.  There was no evidence they were involved despite extensive investigations by two previous police forces and a number of PIs, so interviewing them again would have been adding unnecessary suffering to the family and potentially further hugely damaging headlines.  The Met have dealt with this case with sensitivity and compassion IMO, but I have no doubt that had evidence against the McCanns come to light in the re-investigation that this would not have been covered up.  I can think of no good reason why it would have been.  And let's not forget: the Portuguese as we are always being told have primacy in this case.  They don't appear to have re-interviewed the McCanns as suspects either, nor requested the Met to do so on their behalf.

Alfie, they didn't investigate the McCann's.

I've said that all along, AND I WAS RIGHT.

[Alfie]

Alfie, they didn't investigate the McCann's.

I've said that all along, AND I WAS RIGHT.

Well done. 

[stephen25000]

Interesting.

On the program.

Pedro do Carmo, of the PJ,  says to the effect, we do not know what happened to Madeleine, and we have to look at other scenarios.

[Alfie]

Stephen, do you think the current Portuguese Investigation went back to the beginning and interviewed the McCanns as suspects? 

[stephen25000]

Stephen, do you think the current Portuguese Investigation went back to the beginning and interviewed the McCanns as suspects?

Can you provide a cite, that they did re-question the Mccanns and their 'friends' ?

[Alfie]

Can you provide a cite, that they did re-question the Mccanns and their 'friends' ?

No, that's why I'm asking you if you think the Portuguese did what Operation Grange apparently failed to do.

[misty]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5klkn3_searching-for-madeleine_tv

Video of documentary available here.

[Mr Gray]

What was made crystal clear in the Sky documentary was that Operation Grange was not the back to basics wide scoping investigation which the public were led to believe.  Former DCI Colin Sutton told how he was advised not to lead the enquiry as its scope was being restricted.  Sutton was scathing of the investigation and the fact that only the abduction theory was being pursued.  He confirmed that the parents had not be formally questioned by the Met adding that this was a mistake and should have been done if only to clear them of any involvement.

I believe he said they hadn't been interviewed under caution not that they haven't been interviewed

[John]

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[G-Unit]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5klkn3_searching-for-madeleine_tv

Video of documentary available here.

Did I just see Danie Krugel returning a hairbrush to Madeleine's parents via Brunt?

So, in the second week of June, we had confided in Auntie Janet and our friend Amanda back in Leicestershire and got them to go round to our house looking for hairs that could only be Madeleine’s. They came up with five head hairs from the inside of a coat hood and a couple of eyelashes from her pillow and couriered the lot off to Danie in
South Africa.
[Madeleine]

Jim Gamble on the attitude of British police to the Portuguese investigators; condescending. He says the PJ should have investigated the parents immediately; 'clear the ground beneath your feet'.

In answer to the McCann's complaints about lack of communication and being kept waiting Pedro do Carmo says they weren't trying to win a popularity contest, they were trying to do their job.

Colin Sutton; in 2010 he was told the investigation would be restricted in that the McCanns and their friends were not to be included. Brunt points out that the remit confirmed this by saying the crime was abduction. AC Rowley seems to confirm it also; 'however she left the apartment she was abducted'.

Pedro do Carmo says all options are still on the table as far as the Portuguese are concerned.

DNA evidence ruled out Monteiro. They must have had something to compare his DNA with then?

Colin Sutton; they need to start again, this time at the very beginning.

Brunt ends by saying two investigations found nothing to implicate the parents, but Jim Gamble earlier told us the PJ failed to 'clear the ground beneath their feet' and it seems the Met never even looked at the parents. That means they have never been properly investigated.

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My opinion;

This was more honest than anything that has gone before. What seems to have emerged is that the first investigation was out of it's depth, the UK tried to help but hindered, and the second investigation was restricted. What a complete mess. Everyone did their best but still there is a little girl missing and despite all the efforts no-one knows why or how it happened.

[G-Unit]

How many hairbrushes did Madeleine have? Why does everything about this case have to be mysterious?

The McCanns gave one to Krugel in July 2007. He just returned it, complete with hairs.

The family's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Gerry did give a hairbrush to Mr Krugel at the time to assist in his work.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hairbrush-belonging-madeleine-mccann-returned-10345139

The FSS were given one also;

I received [obtained] information from the pillow-case SJM/1, the tops SJM2, 4 and 5, and the HAIRBRUSH SJM/36 belonging to Madeleine McCann or used by her. The hair found on these objects was used in substitution of [in place of] reference samples of her hair, [which were] not considered to be authentic samples of her hair.

No hair was recovered from the pillow-case SJM/1 nor the HAIRBRUSH SJM/36.”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

[Alfie]

How many hairbrushes did Madeleine have? Why does everything about this case have to be mysterious?

The McCanns gave one to Krugel in July 2007. He just returned it, complete with hairs.

The family's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Gerry did give a hairbrush to Mr Krugel at the time to assist in his work.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hairbrush-belonging-madeleine-mccann-returned-10345139

The FSS were given one also;

I received [obtained] information from the pillow-case SJM/1, the tops SJM2, 4 and 5, and the HAIRBRUSH SJM/36 belonging to Madeleine McCann or used by her. The hair found on these objects was used in substitution of [in place of] reference samples of her hair, [which were] not considered to be authentic samples of her hair.

No hair was recovered from the pillow-case SJM/1 nor the HAIRBRUSH SJM/36.”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

My daughter probably had as many hairbrushes as she'd had birthdays by the time she was Madeleine's age, nothing too Tales of the Unexpected about it.

[G-Unit]

My daughter probably had as many hairbrushes as she'd had birthdays by the time she was Madeleine's age, nothing too Tales of the Unexpected about it.

What a pity the FSS didn't get the one with hairs in it.

[ShiningInLuz]

Mr Brunt should be 'live' outside Luz church already.

God knows they had enough kit.

 

[Robittybob1]

The police never searched the area Danie Krugel identified  Why was that?