Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine

[John]

Did I just see Danie Krugel returning a hairbrush to Madeleine's parents via Brunt?

So, in the second week of June, we had confided in Auntie Janet and our friend Amanda back in Leicestershire and got them to go round to our house looking for hairs that could only be Madeleine’s. They came up with five head hairs from the inside of a coat hood and a couple of eyelashes from her pillow and couriered the lot off to Danie in
South Africa.
[Madeleine]

Jim Gamble on the attitude of British police to the Portuguese investigators; condescending. He says the PJ should have investigated the parents immediately; 'clear the ground beneath your feet'.

In answer to the McCann's complaints about lack of communication and being kept waiting Pedro do Carmo says they weren't trying to win a popularity contest, they were trying to do their job.

Colin Sutton; in 2010 he was told the investigation would be restricted in that the McCanns and their friends were not to be included. Brunt points out that the remit confirmed this by saying the crime was abduction. AC Rowley seems to confirm it also; 'however she left the apartment she was abducted'.

Pedro do Carmo says all options are still on the table as far as the Portuguese are concerned.

DNA evidence ruled out Monteiro. They must have had something to compare his DNA with then?

Colin Sutton; they need to start again, this time at the very beginning.

Brunt ends by saying two investigations found nothing to implicate the parents, but Jim Gamble earlier told us the PJ failed to 'clear the ground beneath their feet' and it seems the Met never even looked at the parents. That means they have never been properly investigated.

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My opinion;

This was more honest than anything that has gone before. What seems to have emerged is that the first investigation was out of it's depth, the UK tried to help but hindered, and the second investigation was restricted. What a complete mess. Everyone did their best but still there is a little girl missing and despite all the efforts no-one knows why or how it happened.

I thought it interesting that when Richard Bilton asked Pedro do Carmo directly in last nights BBC Panorama programme if the McCanns were still suspects he failed to give a straight answer.

[Robittybob1]

Kate's turn to check the kids was at 9:30 but Matt stepped in and did it for her.  Why did he do that?

[Robittybob1]

"The apartment was let out twice in the next  weeks before it was sealed off for  a full forensic examination". 
That is astounding.

[Robittybob1]

They should have made the parents suspects from the start.
They should have got the details of all the employees quicker.
Lack of confidence in that enough work had been done around potential witnesses and suspects. (17:50)

[Mr Gray]

Did I just see Danie Krugel returning a hairbrush to Madeleine's parents via Brunt?

So, in the second week of June, we had confided in Auntie Janet and our friend Amanda back in Leicestershire and got them to go round to our house looking for hairs that could only be Madeleine’s. They came up with five head hairs from the inside of a coat hood and a couple of eyelashes from her pillow and couriered the lot off to Danie in
South Africa.
[Madeleine]

Jim Gamble on the attitude of British police to the Portuguese investigators; condescending. He says the PJ should have investigated the parents immediately; 'clear the ground beneath your feet'.

In answer to the McCann's complaints about lack of communication and being kept waiting Pedro do Carmo says they weren't trying to win a popularity contest, they were trying to do their job.

Colin Sutton; in 2010 he was told the investigation would be restricted in that the McCanns and their friends were not to be included. Brunt points out that the remit confirmed this by saying the crime was abduction. AC Rowley seems to confirm it also; 'however she left the apartment she was abducted'.

Pedro do Carmo says all options are still on the table as far as the Portuguese are concerned.

DNA evidence ruled out Monteiro. They must have had something to compare his DNA with then?

Colin Sutton; they need to start again, this time at the very beginning.

Brunt ends by saying two investigations found nothing to implicate the parents, but Jim Gamble earlier told us the PJ failed to 'clear the ground beneath their feet' and it seems the Met never even looked at the parents. That means they have never been properly investigated.

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My opinion;

This was more honest than anything that has gone before. What seems to have emerged is that the first investigation was out of it's depth, the UK tried to help but hindered, and the second investigation was restricted. What a complete mess. Everyone did their best but still there is a little girl missing and despite all the efforts no-one knows why or how it happened.

We have been told that the met did look at the parents
They examined the files and agreed that there was nothing to implicated the parents
We have been told that the parents have not been interviewed under caution by the met which tells us that they have been interviewed as witnesses because if they hadn't Sutton would have told us
So what we know is after 10 yrs there is no evidence against the parents

[John]

We have been told that the met did look at the parents
They examined the files and agreed that there was nothing to implicated the parents
We have been told that the parents have not been interviewed under caution by the met which tells us that they have been interviewed as witnesses because if they hadn't Sutton would have told us
So what we know is after 10 yrs there is no evidence against the parents

Pedro do Carmo was asked by Panorama if they were still suspects and he wouldn't give a straight answer, what does that tell you?

[Robittybob1]

Colin Sutton:  "that SY investigation would be away from the McCanns or the Tapas friends"  (well something like that). 
So would that also include Jeremy Wilkins?  Is he considered a Tapas friend?  I know he tries to make out he is a friend of Gerry.

[Mr Gray]

Pedro do Carmo was asked by Panorama if they were still suspects and he wouldn't give a straight answer, what does that tell you?

I haven't seen it but hasn't he already stated clearly they are not suspects
He certainly has in his interview for expresso
The McCanns are not suspects

[Robittybob1]

Jane Tanner's sketch appears at 30:25 onward.

I think Martin Brunt's point about the Crecheman going in the long way around (wrong direction) is very important.  The little bit of uncertainty in Redwoods announcement just got considerably larger.

Collin Sutton is one who is not convinced by Redwood's explanation.  Bravo!

[G-Unit]

Jane Tanner's sketch appears at 30:25 onward.

I think Martin Brunt's point about the Crecheman going in the long way around (wrong direction) is very important.  The little bit of uncertainty in Redwoods announcement just got considerably larger.

Collin Sutton is one who is not convinced by Redwood's explanation.  Bravo!

No-one was convinced by Redwood's clumsy attempt to eliminate Tannerman. The interesting question is why?

[Robittybob1]

No-one was convinced by Redwood's clumsy attempt to eliminate Tannerman. The interesting question is why?

I suppose he was hoping to get a lead onto Smithman instead.

[G-Unit]

I suppose he was hoping to get a lead onto Smithman instead.

Well obviously. Leaving Gerry and Matthew with moving bedroom doors for no apparent reason.

[Alfie]

Pedro do Carmo was asked by Panorama if they were still suspects and he wouldn't give a straight answer, what does that tell you?

That you're on the wrong thread...

[Eleanor]

That you're on the wrong thread...

Whoops.

[Alfie]

I thought it interesting that when Richard Bilton asked Pedro do Carmo directly in last nights BBC Panorama programme if the McCanns were still suspects he failed to give a straight answer.

He failed to give a straight answer to just about every question he was asked, shifty doesn't even begin to cover it.  Must be the judicial secrecy training kicking in.