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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #435 on: May 09, 2017, 08:40:36 AM »
To use someone else's argument, if it is not denied.....

This
If it's not denied it must be true is rather stupid

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #436 on: May 09, 2017, 08:45:52 AM »
This
If it's not denied it must be true is rather stupid

Tell some of your fellow supporters.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #437 on: May 09, 2017, 08:57:15 AM »
Tell some of your fellow supporters.

I've only heard that argument used by sceptics

Offline slartibartfast

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Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #439 on: May 09, 2017, 09:26:40 AM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8179.msg403267#msg403267
So is it a pertinent argument or not?  You seem to think so as you have used it yourself.  Which is it?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #440 on: May 09, 2017, 09:30:36 AM »

The point I am making is that there are simple answers to your questions
The one re the GMC has been raised by you before
You are making an assumption that Gerry told this to the GMC
I have never heard the McCanns refer to the eye defect as a  coloboma you will not have a cite for this
It is another instance of someone else using a word and then sceptics assuming Gerry used it
Assumptions assumptions assumptions

Ha ha, it was The Lancet actually, my mistake. It was the 'family' who told The Lancet, so how did they make that mistake? If it had been discussed they would surely have been reassured by her doctor parents that it was 'just a fleck of colour'. A coloboma is a specific condition requiring examination to discover which part of the eye is involved and ongoing monitoring to check eyesight and to make sure there's no other associated health problems.

Piers Morgan asked about it and Gerry waffled;

"G. MCCANN: Certainly believe it wouldn't have changed. I think there's been a pattern to be still there. That it's -- the technical term is coloboma, where there's a defect in the iris.

I don't think it is actually. I think it's actually an additional bit of color. She certainly had no visual problems."

If it was an additional bit of colour it can't be called a coloboma, 'technically' or otherwise. A coloboma is not a defect in the iris, it's a hole in one of the structures of the eye, such as the iris, retina, choroid, or optic disc. If Madeleine had one it would have been picked up in her infant checks and she would have been referred to an ophthalmologist. She either had one or she didn't and her parents would know.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #441 on: May 09, 2017, 09:34:57 AM »
This
If it's not denied it must be true is rather stupid

About as stupid as saying that finding no evidence that something happened is evidence that it didn't imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #442 on: May 09, 2017, 09:39:38 AM »
About as stupid as saying that finding no evidence that something happened is evidence that it didn't imo.
No evidence that something happened is evidence it didn't happen
Someone would have to be stupid not to understand that

We can find no evidence of ghosts
Which is evidence that they do not exist

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #443 on: May 09, 2017, 09:41:06 AM »
About as stupid as saying that finding no evidence that something happened is evidence that it didn't imo.


like  denying  what   eddie and keela  found was most likley right......

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #444 on: May 09, 2017, 09:44:44 AM »
No evidence that something happened is evidence it didn't happen
Someone would have to be stupid not to understand that

We can find no evidence of ghosts
Which is evidence that they do not exist

So no evidence of a denial is evidence that no denial was made.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #445 on: May 09, 2017, 09:45:45 AM »

like  denying  what   eddie and keela  found was most likley right......
It wasn't most likely right as Horrocks correctly says the alerts were irrelevant

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #446 on: May 09, 2017, 09:47:12 AM »
So no evidence of a denial is evidence that no denial was made.

Of course it is
Weak evidence
But certainly evidence

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #447 on: May 09, 2017, 10:09:33 AM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8179.msg403267#msg403267

If you are referring to the posts by nenice then you have completely failed to support your claim

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #448 on: May 09, 2017, 01:31:16 PM »
Of course it is
Weak evidence
But certainly evidence

So there's no evidence that Gerry McCann denied that Madeleine had a coloboma, so he probably didn't. It would be rather difficult if 'the family' told The Lancet she did have one.

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #449 on: May 09, 2017, 02:10:31 PM »
If you are referring to the posts by nenice then you have completely failed to support your claim

Why? I am sure you aren't denigrating Benice.
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