australian article by Mark Saunokonoko who supports amaral discussion

[Alfie]

Nary a one.  I think Gerry may have been wide of the mark in his timing though :-)  Good to see that Faith has confidence in at least one sentence he may have uttered over the past ten years.

Yes, but she doesn't explain why in her opinion the one and only occasion Gerry decides to tell the truth it's to completely destroy his own alibi.  It makes no sense at all (which is par for the course with regard to the rest of Faithlilly's theory). 

[pathfinder73]

There is no doubt that Gerry McCann was sitting in the tapas restaurant when the Smiths saw their man ... the Policia Judiciaria have said so ... do you presume to know better than them?

LOL Kate could have left the table as early as 9:50 according to Matt who was wearing a watch at the table. Aoife said they left Kelly's bar at 10 not before and said she knew the time. That would put the Smith sighting after the alarm was raised and when they were searching for Madeleine.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Yes, but she doesn't explain why in her opinion the one and only occasion Gerry decides to tell the truth it's to completely destroy his own alibi.  It makes no sense at all (which is par for the course with regard to the rest of Faithlilly's theory).

Well you could factor in him not seeing JT or the 'alleged' abductor either... not noticing shutters and all that jazz.

[sadie]

Well you could factor in him not seeing JT or the 'abductor either... not noticing shutters and all that jazz.

All of which are totally understandable if only you put your thinking cap on .... and read the posts of others.

1)  Not seeing JT = his back was towards her as he stood on the kerb and she passed by.  The footpath was very wide at the point where Gerry and Jez were chatting.  [See Amarals latest video.  He is standing where Gerry was standing and there is a massive space behind him]

2)  Not seeing the 'alleged' abductor (Tannerman) = Tannerman was 30 metres away and furthermore uphill.  The lighting was bad.
Most important of all he was talking to Jezz and Tannerman was at right angles to his path of vision.   Nobody sees things at right angles to their line of vision

3)  Not noticing the shutters = Gerry did not pass the shutters when he checked the children at about 9pm.
How could he have noticed them?   
Furthermore, Gerry saw Madeleine in her bed when he did his check.  SY say Madekleine was abducted ... so the 'alleged abductor' had not struck at that time.


As I say, there is absolutely NO REASON why Gerry could have witnessed any of these happenings.   NO CHANCE

[ferryman]

It is indeed. Gerry himself claims the alarm was raised around 10.13, around 13 minutes after the Smith sighting.

Mr Smith and his wife both produced efits of a man they were both convinced was Gerry.

It stands to reason .....

[Robittybob1]

Mr Smith and his wife both produced efits of a man they were both convinced was Gerry.

It stands to reason .....

Because they had formed an opinion as to who they saw can the E-fits be considered safe?

[G-Unit]

Because they had formed an opinion as to who they saw can the E-fits be considered safe?

So many questions about those e-fits. The only story I can find in the media is in a local newspaper dated 8th August 2007.

A DROGHEDA family who may hold vital clues as to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have hit out at media distortion of evidence that they have given to Portuguese police.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/4aug7/drogheda_independent_08_08_07.htm

How the media found out about the Smith's evidence isn't known. The next significant date seems to be 20th September when Mr Smith contacted Leicestershire police saying he had recognised Gerry McCann on 9th September on BBC News. They told the PJ and Inspector Paiva rang Mr Smith on 27th September and Smith agreed to return to Portugal to make another statement.

The idea was abandoned and instead some questions were sent on 7th November 2007 which were dealt with by the Drogheda police who took Mr Smith's statement on 30th January 2008.

That's when Mr Smith reported that he had been contacted by Brian Kennedy asking him to do an e-fit, but he had refused. Why Kennedy was interested in the Smith sighting is unknown.

So why did Mr Smith agree to create an e-fit when approached again by Exton? What had changed?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

[Robittybob1]

So many questions about those e-fits. The only story I can find in the media is in a local newspaper dated 8th August 2007.

A DROGHEDA family who may hold vital clues as to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have hit out at media distortion of evidence that they have given to Portuguese police.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/4aug7/drogheda_independent_08_08_07.htm

How the media found out about the Smith's evidence isn't known. The next significant date seems to be 20th September when Mr Smith contacted Leicestershire police saying he had recognised Gerry McCann on 9th September on BBC News. They told the PJ and Inspector Paiva rang Mr Smith on 27th September and Smith agreed to return to Portugal to make another statement.

The idea was abandoned and instead some questions were sent on 7th November 2007 which were dealt with by the Drogheda police who took Mr Smith's statement on 30th January 2008.

That's when Mr Smith reported that he had been contacted by Brian Kennedy asking him to do an e-fit, but he had refused. Why Kennedy was interested in the Smith sighting is unknown.

So why did Mr Smith agree to create an e-fit when approached again by Exton? What had changed?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Have I got the order of events right sighting on the 3rd
seeing Gerry return on the News in Sept "The next significant date seems to be 20th September when Mr Smith contacted Leicestershire police saying he had recognised Gerry McCann on 9th September on BBC News. '

At that stage no e-fits had been drawn.

So when the e-fits are drawn it is after he had seen Gerry and thought it was Gerry.  There is no way those e-fits are not from a distorted memory if that is the case.

[John]

Have I got the order of events right sighting on the 3rd
seeing Gerry return on the News in Sept "The next significant date seems to be 20th September when Mr Smith contacted Leicestershire police saying he had recognised Gerry McCann on 9th September on BBC News. '

At that stage no e-fits had been drawn.

So when the e-fits are drawn it is after he had seen Gerry and thought it was Gerry.  There is no way those e-fits are not from a distorted memory if that is the case.

Firstly, if I recall properly, Mr Smith went to the Irish Garda with his concerns and not Leicestershire Police.  I believe it was the day after the McCanns returned from Portugal.

Milllionaire businessman Brian Kennedy origionally approached Smith in order to clarify the situation if you get the drift but he was rebuffed.  It took another Irishman in the form of conman Halligen to persuade the Smiths to help create e-fits of the man they saw in Praia da Luz.  I'm sure you can work out why these e-fits were needed so badly.

The e-fits were created but as the man the Smiths saw did resemble Gerry McCann the whole exercise backfired with the e-fits being withheld.  It was only when SY and Redwood started investigating that they were revealed to the public in an episode of BBC Crimewatch.



The e-fits and the location in Praia da Luz where the Smith family encountered the unidentified child-carrying stranger.

[jassi]

Have I got the order of events right sighting on the 3rd
seeing Gerry return on the News in Sept "The next significant date seems to be 20th September when Mr Smith contacted Leicestershire police saying he had recognised Gerry McCann on 9th September on BBC News. '

At that stage no e-fits had been drawn.

So when the e-fits are drawn it is after he had seen Gerry and thought it was Gerry.  There is no way those e-fits are not from a distorted memory if that is the case.

Proven fact, or just your opinion ?

[Brietta]

Firstly, if I recall properly, Mr Smith went to the Irish Garda with his concerns and not Leicestershire Police.  I believe it was the day after the McCanns returned from Portugal.

Milllionaire businessman Brian Kennedy origionally approached Smith in order to clarify the situation if you get the drift but he was rebuffed.  It took another Irishman in the form of conman Halligen to persuade the Smiths to help create e-fits of the man they saw in Praia da Luz.  I'm sure you can work out why these e-fits were needed so badly.

The e-fits were created but as the man the Smiths saw did resemble Gerry McCann the whole exercise backfired with the e-fits being withheld.  It was only when SY and Redwood started investigating that they were revealed to the public in an episode of BBC Crimewatch.



The e-fits and the location in Praia da Luz where the Smith family encountered the unidentified child-carrying stranger.

I don't think the addition to the Smith statement was notified to the guards until about ten days after the McCann family returned home.

[Robittybob1]

Proven fact, or just your opinion ?

It certainly could be claimed as a fact.  If the case went to court  and they say "Gerry looks like the e-fit", it would be countered by "the person saw Gerry before they drew the e-fit, hence drawn from a corrupted memory".

[John]

Please note, I have changed the above e-fits photo.  Thanx Sadie for pointing out the error.

[Robittybob1]

Firstly, if I recall properly, Mr Smith went to the Irish Garda with his concerns and not Leicestershire Police.  I believe it was the day after the McCanns returned from Portugal.

Milllionaire businessman Brian Kennedy origionally approached Smith in order to clarify the situation if you get the drift but he was rebuffed.  It took another Irishman in the form of conman Halligen to persuade the Smiths to help create e-fits of the man they saw in Praia da Luz.  I'm sure you can work out why these e-fits were needed so badly.

The e-fits were created but as the man the Smiths saw did resemble Gerry McCann the whole exercise backfired with the e-fits being withheld.  It was only when SY and Redwood started investigating that they were revealed to the public in an episode of BBC Crimewatch.



The e-fits and the location in Praia da Luz where the Smith family encountered the unidentified child-carrying stranger.

The whole episode sounds messy.  The E-fits could have been made by the PJ much earlier, just leaving it isn't going to make it any easier for the Smith family to remember what they saw.

[sadie]

Firstly, if I recall properly, Mr Smith went to the Irish Garda with his concerns and not Leicestershire Police.  I believe it was the day after the McCanns returned from Portugal.

Milllionaire businessman Brian Kennedy origionally approached Smith in order to clarify the situation if you get the drift but he was rebuffed.  It took another Irishman in the form of conman Halligen to persuade the Smiths to help create e-fits of the man they saw in Praia da Luz.  I'm sure you can work out why these e-fits were needed so badly.

The e-fits were created but as the man the Smiths saw did resemble Gerry McCann the whole exercise backfired with the e-fits being withheld.  It was only when SY and Redwood started investigating that they were revealed to the public in an episode of BBC Crimewatch.



The e-fits and the location in Praia da Luz where the Smith family encountered the unidentified child-carrying stranger.

Are you sure of what you are saying about the reason the efits were not released, John?  .... or is it in your opinion?

Cite please