What Happened To Madeleine McCann? - by Ian Horrocks.

[Mr Gray]

His overall theory is sound, even though he appears to have got it wrong with Tannerman.

The 20min gap existed and it was entirely predictable.  It was called 'main course'.

I don't know how Mr Horrock arrived at his vantage point, but he is correct about it.

I believe access to a front door key may have been involved.  It seems that BBC Panorama picked up on this.

For once I agree with you

[slartibartfast]

Criticise the post not the posters.  The sentence in your post: "that Mccann supporters support a man who is merely expressing his rather blatant biased opinion" is a criticism of a group of posters.

It is not criticising posters it is exploring their motivations. Please can we have less modding by non mods. If you think a post steps over the bounds please report.

[G-Unit]

His overall theory is sound, even though he appears to have got it wrong with Tannerman.

The 20min gap existed and it was entirely predictable.  It was called 'main course'.

I don't know how Mr Horrock arrived at his vantage point, but he is correct about it.

I believe access to a front door key may have been involved.  It seems that BBC Panorama picked up on this.

So he's right about a twenty minute gap and the vantage point, but wrong about when the crime occurred, wrong about the entry point  and wrong about Tannerman? That makes his overall theory unsound, doesn't it?

[Mr Gray]

So he's right about a twenty minute gap and the vantage point, but wrong about when the crime occurred, wrong about the entry point  and wrong about Tannerman? That makes his overall theory unsound, doesn't it?

Nope it makes his overall theory sound

[Brietta]

Check the time on the Dolphin receipt.  She absolutely nailed it.

Check what she saw - she absolutely nailed it.  Check what she said about what she cannot remember and what she cannot be certain of.  She absolutely nailed it.

Please don't diss Aoife. I have finger-tipped her statement and it all stands up to scrutiny.  It is, IMO, the best of all the statements in the PJ Files.

I like it an awful lot.  But then I may be biased.  When I was trying how to find out the f**k to spell and pronounce Aoife, I chanced upon a tiny factoid.

Aoife can mean Shining.  I like it a lot.   

I think it falls at the first hurdle ... there is nothing on that receipt to indicate whose receipt it was.  Therefore no definitive time.

[G-Unit]

Nope it makes his overall theory sound

Nope, it doesn't.

[misty]

I think it falls at the first hurdle ... there is nothing on that receipt to indicate whose receipt it was.  Therefore no definitive time.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P12/12_VOLUME_XIIa_Page_3258.jpg

Does anyone notice something peculiar about this EPS slip?

[Brietta]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P12/12_VOLUME_XIIa_Page_3258.jpg

Does anyone notice something peculiar about this EPS slip?

The name is McDonnell ???

[misty]

The name is McDonnell ???

That is the maiden name of Peter's wife, so that is OK.
Look at the alignment of the name & the space between the MC & DON.
When a card is swiped for electronic payments the cardholder's name is not registered on the receipt & AFAIK it is also not produced on the till roll.

[Mr Gray]

That is the maiden name of Peter's wife, so that is OK.
Look at the alignment of the name & the space between the MC & DON.
When a card is swiped for electronic payments the cardholder's name is not registered on the receipt & AFAIK it is also not produced on the till roll.

Very strange
So what is going on there with a piece of evidence from the official files

[Brietta]

That is the maiden name of Peter's wife, so that is OK.
Look at the alignment of the name & the space between the MC & DON.
When a card is swiped for electronic payments the cardholder's name is not registered on the receipt & AFAIK it is also not produced on the till roll.

  Of course!  I think that could be considered a security breach.

[Mr Gray]

  Of course!  I think that could be considered a security breach.

Or a forgery

[ShiningInLuz]

So he's right about a twenty minute gap and the vantage point, but wrong about when the crime occurred, wrong about the entry point  and wrong about Tannerman? That makes his overall theory unsound, doesn't it?

From memory, I would summarise his theory as having a core consisting of the following.

That there is a vantage point to the south of block 4, from which one could monitor the Tapas group, whilst being both unseen and in 100% safety.  That from that point, it would be possible to carry out an abduction, with very low risk, for the simple reason that one can monitor the Tapas group nearly 100% of the time.

It doesn't matter whether an alleged abductor used the front door with a key, or the rear through unlocked patio doors.

There is such a vantage point and it is a regular on my tours.  From that start point it was possible for a lone person to carry out an abduction, with a high degree of safety and a high chance of success.

I happen to think that key control at the OC was weak, for several reasons.  Mr Horrocks appears not to know this.

Mr Horrocks appears not to have scrutinised the time line in sufficient detail, nor has he analysed the pattern of activity of the T9 that week.  I have.  Accordingly, I am confident there was a predictable window of opportunity when starters began being served.  There was a longer window of opportunity which began when the main courses were served.

[Mr Gray]

From memory, I would summarise his theory as having a core consisting of the following.

That there is a vantage point to the south of block 4, from which one could monitor the Tapas group, whilst being both unseen and in 100% safety.  That from that point, it would be possible to carry out an abduction, with very low risk, for the simple reason that one can monitor the Tapas group nearly 100% of the time.

It doesn't matter whether an alleged abductor used the front door with a key, or the rear through unlocked patio doors.

There is such a vantage point and it is a regular on my tours.  From that start point it was possible for a lone person to carry out an abduction, with a high degree of safety and a high chance of success.

I happen to think that key control at the OC was weak, for several reasons.  Mr Horrocks appears not to know this.

Mr Horrocks appears not to have scrutinised the time line in sufficient detail, nor has he analysed the pattern of activity of the T9 that week.  I have.  Accordingly, I am confident there was a predictable window of opportunity when starters began being served.  There was a longer window of opportunity which began when the main courses were served.

What sil is saying is that ther is a clear window of opportunity for an abduction to take place if someone had been watching the family
Which is what I said two weeks ago

[Alice Purjorick]

  Of course!  I think that could be considered a security breach.

Reds under the bed !