Author Topic: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.  (Read 58341 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #300 on: May 14, 2017, 10:19:28 AM »
What is abundantly clear is that the shelving process revealed it wasn't known what happened, anyone can read the report for themselves and ascertain that fact.

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« Reply #301 on: May 14, 2017, 10:19:37 AM »
and they clearly stated that there was no evidence against the aprents

Senior judges said 'insufficient evidence' was the reason the case was archived.
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« Reply #302 on: May 14, 2017, 10:22:22 AM »
Rowley is merely plodding the line he has been told to do. IMHO, of course.

Now still waiting for an answer to who gave instructions to SY to only look at abduction.

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« Reply #303 on: May 14, 2017, 10:22:57 AM »
Senior judges said 'insufficient evidence' was the reason the case was archived.

They interpreted the archiving dispatch through the prism of the Almeida Interim report rather than the PJ final report (written by Joao Carlos).
Big mistake.

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« Reply #304 on: May 14, 2017, 10:28:37 AM »
They interpreted the archiving dispatch through the prism of the Almeida Interim report rather than the PJ final report (written by Joao Carlos).
Big mistake.

No they didn't. They looked at the archiving dispatch because Duarte claimed 'it cleared the parents. The judges rejected her argument.
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« Reply #305 on: May 14, 2017, 10:34:59 AM »
Senior judges said 'insufficient evidence' was the reason the case was archived.
That important Portuguese bloke on the telly recently said there was NO evidence at all against anyone.

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« Reply #306 on: May 14, 2017, 11:02:11 AM »
The term insufficient evidence was not in the archiving report
The SC was not concerned with the innocence or guilt of the McCanns and would therefore not have looked at the evidence
I think the SC decision was flawed and hopefully the ECHR will agree
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Online Eleanor

Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #307 on: May 14, 2017, 01:13:48 PM »
The problem is that while some of us believe that there was an abductor, or not, there is actually no proof either way.

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Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #308 on: May 14, 2017, 01:16:56 PM »
The problem is that while some of us believe that there was an abductor, or not, there is actually no proof either way.

Spot on Eleanor, it is incorrect to post abductor just as much as it is to post killer or murderer.  There are many ways to describe a belief in abduction and there are several ways abduction might have occurred such as from the apartment or from the street.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Online Eleanor

Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #309 on: May 14, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »

This is the thing.  It's actually not difficult to chose words more carefully.

In fact it's quite interesting.  A small exercise in The English Language.

Online Eleanor

Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #310 on: May 14, 2017, 01:25:22 PM »

However, I shall be looking closely at any comment that states that there was No Abduction.

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« Reply #311 on: May 14, 2017, 01:48:46 PM »
OG  have been looking for an abductor for years, but what does that prove? It doesn't prove that an abduction happened, that's for sure.

First and foremost SY are looking for someone to prosecute in order to justify their involvement in the case and the huge resources already provided to them.  Finding missing children comes a poor second if past performance is anything to go by.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 01:58:06 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Alfie

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Re: The use of the term 'abductor' should be qualified by caveat.
« Reply #312 on: May 14, 2017, 01:50:39 PM »
John I see you have deleted the offending sentence of Angelo's which proved my point and which now makes my post less meaningful, and all without the good grace to acknowledge what you have done.
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« Reply #313 on: May 14, 2017, 01:52:57 PM »
At this moment in time no-one knows what happened to Madeleine McCann. Theories abound, but no-one knows beyond doubt. Despite that, those who support her parents insist that she was abducted.

Supporters on this forum quote the press, various experts, and the Met in an attempt to suggest that it must be true if all these 'experts' believe it.

Opinions are not evidence.
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« Reply #314 on: May 14, 2017, 01:54:56 PM »
At this moment in time no-one knows what happened to Madeleine McCann. Theories abound, but no-one knows beyond doubt. Despite that, those who support her parents insist that she was abducted.

Supporters on this forum quote the press, various experts, and the Met in an attempt to suggest that it must be true if all these 'experts' believe it.

Opinions are not evidence.
There is no evidence at all that Claudia Lawrence is dead, has been murdered or abducted yet everyone believes this to be the case - why is that?  Let's not forget she unlike Madeleine could have gone off to start a new life but no one is suggesting that is what happened.  Why not?