Author Topic: UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann  (Read 88261 times)

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Alfie

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However when the theory corresponded with your views that the former police officer was relying on his experience was good enouh. A tad hypocritical don't you think ?

Couple this with Exton's ( another experienced police officer) misgivings about the McCann's and their friend's statements, and you can see a pattern forming.

As to whether the McCanns are suspects if you remember way back in the deep, dark past we were also told the parents were not suspects, just before they were made arguidos.
Can I have a cite for your first accusation - also the way you have worded it is not very clear.  If I am to be accused of hypocrisy at least have the good grace to provide proof, thanks.
It seems you are still holding out hope that despite what they tell us, Operation Grange are secretly treating the McCanns as suspects, am I right...?   *&*%£  You must therefore disagree with those that claim the Met failed to interview the McCanns, or do you think they haven't yet and are just waiting for a convenient moment to do so?

Offline John

Could, could, could ....

We are still (just about!) part of the European Union and the Portuguese have the powers of the European Arrest Warrant they could exercise.

Or could they?

Perhaps the Portuguese themselves have concluded that there is simply no justification, possibly not even grounds, for doing so.

The EAW only applies to suspects.  The Portuguese investigators if I recall asked for several things during the initial enquiry but the English police refused to comply.  In those circumstances it is in the least surprising that the Portuguese gave up and shelved the investigation. Ergo, if anyone is to blame for the shelving it isn't the Portuguese.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2017, 02:15:41 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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The EAW only applies to suspects.

OK, yes ....

stephen25000

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You've got it right that the McCann family were given an absolutely horrendous press in the early days.  As were Robert Murat and the so called tapas seven.

It is a matter of record that the release of the PJ files caused a lot of consternation among journalists, editors and proprietors.


News Review: The Maddie files: A tide of words that say little The Scotsman
 
By Stephen McGinty
Last Updated: 08 August 2008 8:32 PM

At up to 40,000 pages, the Portuguese police’s Madeleine McCann case files raise more questions than they answer, writes STEPHEN McGINTY

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Yet last night a former senior detective said the material was “a gold mine” for the detectives hired by the family.

He explained: “The first thing I would be doing is looking for a policy file or master index. In British investigations these files detail all the lines of inquires and the reasons why some have fallen off or been abandoned.

“I would also examine all the forensic evidence and reports. Then you would do a detailed structured review. The benefit is that they can now take a cool, detached look.

“The case is very cold. The golden period is the first 12-24 hours. Yet the files are an absolute gold mine of possibilities.”
http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/case-files-released-press-comments/


Out of the myriad of media comment concerning reaction to the release of the files the above caught my eye; although it was by no means the only recognition that the released files indicated remaining avenues still unworked it raised in my mind the process which had been used.
Was there one?


I think it is arrant nonsense to assert that Kate and Gerry McCann are being given an easy ride by the press.

The difference between now and 2007/08 when lies were written daily about them is that since the release of the files the lies were laid bare.

What is now happening is not special treatment for the McCanns ... they are being given nothing more than their right not to be libelled.

You think they haven't been given an easy ride, I say they have.

Perhaps you can remind me of when last time the press in this country questioned the abduction scenario ?

By the way, they do not have any right not to be questioned about the events of May the 3 rd.

perhaps you should take note of Colin Sutton's view on that. 8)-)))

Offline John

You think they haven't been given an easy ride, I say they have.

Perhaps you can remind me of when last time the press in this country questioned the abduction scenario ?

By the way, they do not have any right not to be questioned about the events of May the 3 rd.

perhaps you should take note of Colin Sutton's view on that. 8)-)))

We know that News Corp UK & Ireland Limited whose stable includes The Sun and Sky News etc are brown nosing the McCanns in order to serve their own financial interests.  Murdoch ethos rules!
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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We know that News Corp UK & Ireland Limited whose stable includes The Sun and Sky News etc are brown nosing the McCanns in order to serve their own financial interests.  Murdoch ethos rules!

Yep.

Making money from Madeleine.

Now I wonder why McCann supporters don't object to that.

ferryman

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You think they haven't been given an easy ride, I say they have.

Perhaps you can remind me of when last time the press in this country questioned the abduction scenario ?

By the way, they do not have any right not to be questioned about the events of May the 3 rd.

perhaps you should take note of Colin Sutton's view on that. 8)-)))

From around August 2007 and for a long time afterwards.

They paid a heavy price for doing so.

And rightly so.

stephen25000

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From around August 2007 and for a long time afterwards.

They paid a heavy price for doing so.

And rightly so.

Rubbish.

The press couldn't have bent over backwards, more to support the McCann's on the last 8 years.

By the way, do you support Tony Parson's views ?

ferryman

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Rubbish.

The press couldn't have bent over backwards, more to support the McCann's on the last 8 years.

By the way, do you support Tony Parson's views ?

After they had been punished in the courts, yes.

I've no clue what Tony Parsons has said, so cant' comment.

stephen25000

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After they had been punished in the courts, yes.

I've no clue what Tony Parsons has said, so cant' comment.

I've posted one of his comments on the forum today, plus a link to others.

Post Number 42.


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8207.msg406505#msg406505

Have a read............. 8)--))
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Offline Mr Gray

The EAW only applies to suspects.  The Portuguese investigators if I recall asked for several things during the initial enquiry but the English police refused to comply.  In those circumstances it is in the least surprising that the Portuguese gave up and shelved the investigation. Ergo, if anyone is to blame for the shelving it isn't the Portuguese.
I think you will find that the UK police had no power to supply what the PJ wanted
It can take a court order to disclose medical records for one

Offline carlymichelle

Yep.

Making money from Madeleine.

Now I wonder why McCann supporters don't object to that.

because they only  support the mcanns imo ie gerry and kate

Offline John

I think you will find that the UK police had no power to supply what the PJ wanted
It can take a court order to disclose medical records for one

If there was a will there was a way.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

After they had been punished in the courts, yes.

I've no clue what Tony Parsons has said, so cant' comment.

If I recall correctly all the libel cases were settled out of court.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline carlymichelle

If there was a will there was a way.

i  personally  think john the mcanns havent     helped  themselves at all  with the media they milk it for all its worth and whine when   the press    write what they dont like imo its been the same  way for  10 years  our  australian media are not  as  soft  as the  uk is they tell it like  it is thankfully