UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[stephen25000]

He has stated abduction as fact. Fact.

He can state anything he wishes.

It doesn't make 'an abduction' a fact.

[Mr Gray]

Type of Crime – Unknown

Absolutely
But the parents are not suspects and woke and wandered is highly unlikely
That leaves abduction or death in the apartment

[Alfie]

I'm afraid empathy is not a prerogative of Mccann supporters.

Stop trying to imply otherwise.

IMO, your 'feelings' are 1-dimensional, and solely in the direction of Kate and Gerry McCann.

Stephen there are at least two posters on this forum (on the sceptic side of the fence) who seem to think empathy and sympathy are worthless traits, is it any wonder people get the wrong idea!

[Alfie]

He can state anything he wishes.

It doesn't make 'an abduction' a fact.

If he can state anything he wishes then why can't we?!

[Alfie]

If I were to write

"Madeleine was abducted"

Is the world going to shift on his axis?  Are casual browsers going to read my post and go "oh, well that's settled it then, now we know the truth".  What do you think?

[stephen25000]

Stephen there are at least two posters on this forum (on the sceptic side of the fence) who seem to think empathy and sympathy are worthless traits, is it any wonder people get the wrong idea!

I was referring to ferryman, and his actions.

The old propaganda has worn very thin.

Can you explain to me why Kate Mccann was prepared to forgive a hypothetical 'abductor', yet say this in reference to Amaral.......

“I know I'm not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."


Their 'upset' was self induced by their actions in Portugal. IMO of course.

[Mr Gray]

Not enough facts to be sure what happened, however. Not being suspects is no guarantee of innocence.

No guarantee of innocence but an indication of innocence
We have enough facts to know what probably didn't happen and those facts show abduction to be highly likely imo

[Robittybob1]

Absolutely
But the parents are not suspects and woke and wandered is highly unlikely
That leaves abduction or death in the apartment

Why was "woke and wandered" given a "highly unlikely" rating?

[stephen25000]

By the way, and it seems for the umpteenth time,

Type of Crime – Unknown


How can you eliminate possible suspects, and when they were the last people known to have seen her alive ?

[G-Unit]

What are you going to do about Mark Rowley who state on TV that Madeleine was abducted?

I'm not going to do anything, what a quaint idea. If Mark Rowley knows beyond doubt that Madeleine was abducted he could stop all the speculation by sharing how he reached that conclusion.

[Mr Gray]

By the way, and it seems for the umpteenth time,

Type of Crime – Unknown


How can you eliminate possible suspects, and when they were the last people known to have seen her alive ?

Very easily
Ben Needham grandmother is not a suspect

[Alfie]

I was referring to ferryman, and his actions.

The old propaganda has worn very thin.

Can you explain to me why Kate Mccann was prepared to forgive a hypothetical 'abductor', yet say this in reference to Amaral.......

“I know I'm not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."


Their 'upset' was self induced by their actions in Portugal. IMO of course.

Can you supply the cite for Kate preparing to forgive an abductor please?  For all we know Kate may also be prepared to forgive Amaral now, has anyone asked her?

[stephen25000]

Can you supply the cite for Kate preparing to forgive an abductor please?  For all we know Kate may also be prepared to forgive Amaral now, has anyone asked her?

I'm sure you trust the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

‘I think I could probably forgive Madeleine’s abductor whatever the circumstances. I don’t know whether it’s simply because I’m stronger or because there’s no benefit in not forgiving someone.

'I can’t change anything and I don’t want to be eaten up by hatred and bitterness.

'And maybe there is an element of pity - what kind of person could do something like this? Of course, forgiveness will always be easier if there is remorse.’



The irony of the second paragraph is beyond measure.

[jassi]

Why was "woke and wandered" given a "highly unlikely" rating?

As far as I'm aware, no one has ever given a sensible explanation why this should be rejected.

The problem for the McCann camp is that if she was proved to have got out, then they would be seen to bear far greater responsibility for her fate than if a dastardly abductor had broken in and snatched her.

[stephen25000]

As far as I'm aware, no one has ever given a sensible explanation why this should be rejected.

The problem for the McCann camp is that if she was proved to have got out, then they would be seen to bear far greater responsibility for her fate than if a dastardly abductor had broken in and snatched her.

Indeed Jassi, as they would be culpable.

That is why (along with the accidental death scenario) they have to push for 'abduction'.