UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[stephen25000]

Your post seems to indicate great satisfaction as you shout "NO" to each of your statements.  Rather reminiscent to me of the Tory public school boys and girls in chorus in the Cameron days; and making as much sense.

You keep on returning to the flawed tunnel vision of the police in almost every post you make ... were the Brits in the loop with the lead authority?  You tell me if you like.
In my opinion it is doubtful for the simple reason the Brits knew how to conduct a missing child inquiry ... it seems the Portuguese did not.  Or at least those in charge of Madeleine's case did not.

Did Madeleine have a fatal accident in her accommodation? 
The investigation failed to rule that one in so why did the coordinator refuse to rule it out? 
There was not a shred of evidence ruling it in but there was forensic evidence ruling it out. What was thought to be blood spatter did not test as blood except for that of the GNR officer who bled there.

So why the tunnel vision of insisting on one theory which may very well have cost Madeleine the opportunity of being found when there were others open for investigation?

It really isn't a plus point for the primary investigation reminding people of the lack of evidence available in Madeleine's case.
It is generally recognised that there was failure in harvesting materials for forensic examination ... didn't Amaral say something along the lines of lack of experience/ resources in his book?

In my opinion there is plenty of evidence showing they were investigating death ... but in the total lack of evidence for that was there not better reason to throw everything into the search for a living child who might unfortunately be found dead.
But why wasn't she granted the presumption of being alive and waiting to be found?  To me that is the greatest failure of all.

Abduction, abduction and yet more abduction.

Yet no proof that one occurred.

Merely hypothetical.

So where could Madeleine be waiting to be found ?

The original investigation, and many , many people searched for her.

[slartibartfast]

This might be a bit debatable.

Agreed, "a member of SY has said" is more accurate, we don't know what SY as an organisation thinks.

[Alfie]

As if you don't know.

No, I really don't so why don't you enlighten me.  If Madeleine was not abducted then the McCanns are up shit creek because....?

[Mr Gray]

Agreed, "a member of SY has said" is more accurate, we don't know what SY as an organisation thinks.

Was Rowley giving his personal opinion or the official SY opinion
Surely it was the official SY opinion

I've looked at it again and Rowley uses the word "we" throughout and never "I"
That shows he is speaking for the team and not himself
Therefore the view of SY is that Maddie was abducted and I have been assured by a mod that I can say according to SY Maddie was abducted

[Alfie]

Apparently I have libelled someone and my warning level is up to 45% - I think it's only fair that I be told who I am supposed to have libelled because I have no idea.

[barrier]

Was Rowley giving his personal opinion or the official SY opinion
Surely it was the official SY opinion

I've looked at it again and Rowley uses the word "we" throughout and never "I"
That shows he is speaking for the team and not himself
Therefore the view of SY is that Maddie was abducted and I have been assured by a mod that I can say according to SY Maddie was abducted

Six years and counting upward of £12 million and counting,SY doesn't appear to advanced much,maybe a new line of thinking is required. Is it really likely the alleged abductor/s are just waiting out in Luz for the mighty MET.

[ShiningInLuz]

Six years and counting upward of £12 million and counting,SY doesn't appear to advanced much,maybe a new line of thinking is required. Is it really likely the alleged abductor/s are just waiting out in Luz for the mighty MET.

I suppose, given the thread topic, and recent events (Panorama 10th special, 10th anniversary service in Luz) it might be an idea if Belgravia got off its a**e and visited the incident scene?

I met more media contacts (Brit and Portuguese), and more non-media contacts (Swedish and German), who were trying to push understanding of what happened on 3 May 2007 beyond what we know now than OG can shake a stick at.

Just no OG.  Or to be technically correct, no OG, no PJ.  Just media and information sources.

[stephen25000]

Six years and counting upward of £12 million and counting,SY doesn't appear to advanced much,maybe a new line of thinking is required. Is it really likely the alleged abductor/s are just waiting out in Luz for the mighty MET.

The mighty Met team are down to 4, at the last count, and we are told actively pursuing one line of inquiry.

It sounds like a well worn cliché and nothing even vaguely tangible appears to  having been achieved.

When did that phrase start to be used ?

As to the belief that some hold, that SY en masse, believe in abduction..... £4%4£

[Mr Gray]

I suppose, given the thread topic, and recent events (Panorama 10th special, 10th anniversary service in Luz) it might be an idea if Belgravia got off its a**e and visited the incident scene?

I met more media contacts (Brit and Portuguese), and more non-media contacts (Swedish and German), who were trying to push understanding of what happened on 3 May 2007 beyond what we know now than OG can shake a stick at.

Just no OG.  Or to be technically correct, no OG, no PJ.  Just media and information sources.

They have already visited several times
Do you really think you know better than them
It seem their remaining lead does not require their presence in PDL

[Alice Purjorick]

I suppose, given the thread topic, and recent events (Panorama 10th special, 10th anniversary service in Luz) it might be an idea if Belgravia got off its a**e and visited the incident scene?

I met more media contacts (Brit and Portuguese), and more non-media contacts (Swedish and German), who were trying to push understanding of what happened on 3 May 2007 beyond what we know now than OG can shake a stick at.

Just no OG.  Or to be technically correct, no OG, no PJ.  Just media and information sources.

Were I wanting to do a serious job there I would have waited until the circus left town.

[ShiningInLuz]

They have already visited several times
Do you really think you know better than them
It seem their remaining lead does not require their presence in PDL

Cite?

Of course I know better, IMO.   

[Mr Gray]

Cite?

Of course I know better, IMO.   

There are photographs of SY officers in PDL
Have you not seen them
You think you know better than SY
With respect last week you were confusing the statements of Sutton and Rowley
Not a good sign

[Alfie]

How much time has Operation Sardine spent in PdL?  I made that name up by the way.  Do the PJ even have a name for their investigation?

[stephen25000]

So, let's see some evidence of when OG and the PJ were last in PDL.

Not opinions, just facts please.

[jassi]

Ms Walls visited briefly but that is a couple of years ago, maybe slightly longer.
Did she ever go again?
Anything more recent that we know of ?