UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[ShiningInLuz]

There are photographs of SY officers in PDL
Have you not seen them
You think you know better than SY
With respect last week you were confusing the statements of Sutton and Rowley
Not a good sign

There are indeed photographs of OG officers sweating their b**ocks off in Luz.  Just not near the incident scene.

[Brietta]

Last I heard they do not walk around with a blue flashing light attached to their heads I believe they look like ordinary human beings ... so how on earth would any one know?

Please can we move on to something with more substance.

[Mr Gray]

There are indeed photographs of OG officers sweating their b**ocks off in Luz.  Just not near the incident scene.

If you are going to claim you know better than SY then I'm entitled to question your credibility

[Robittybob1]

There are indeed photographs of OG officers sweating their b**ocks off in Luz.  Just not near the incident scene.

Are you suggesting they need to dig in the grounds of Ocean Club?

[ShiningInLuz]

Are you suggesting they need to dig in the grounds of Ocean Club?

Nope.

Have a little think about where you would like to see should you ever make it to Luz.

Cross off the June 2014 dig sites.  They are interesting, but not for OG's 'anomalies'.

What are you left with?

Apartment 5A?  Oh, blx, must have slipped OG's mind.  Night crèche?  Oh, dear.  Smith sighting?  Why bother with Luz when you've got Belgravia?

[ShiningInLuz]

If you are going to claim you know better than SY then I'm entitled to question your credibility

Question my credibility?

 *&*%£

[Benice]

The real question is, who ordered SY not to investigate the McCann's ?

If that did happen Stephen -  then surely the real question is not WHO but WHY? 

WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?

There has to be a very compelling  reason why so many politicians and senior police officers would agree to risk putting their careers/lives on the line in order to protect the McCanns from being found to be complicit in their daughters disappearance - which IMO is what is being suggested.   So what is that reason?

Unless someone can come up with a credible reason WHY the McCanns warranted such drastic action being taken on their behalf by so many' people in high places' - then it's just another barmy conspiracy theory IMO.

Which of course it is imo - as if the McCanns were THAT important the case would have been 'dealt with' by the appropriate governmental dept.  10 years ago - and we would not be discussing it now.

AIMHO

[stephen25000]

If that did happen Stephen -  then surely the real question is not WHO but WHY? 

WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?

There has to be a very compelling  reason why so many politicians and senior police officers would agree to risk putting their careers/lives on the line in order to protect the McCanns from being found to be complicit in their daughters disappearance - which IMO is what is being suggested.   So what is that reason?

Unless someone can come up with a credible reason WHY the McCanns warranted such drastic action being taken on their behalf by so many' people in high places' - then it's just another barmy conspiracy theory IMO.

Which of course it is imo - as if the McCanns were THAT important the case would have been 'dealt with' by the appropriate governmental dept.  10 years ago - and we would not be discussing it now.

AIMHO

You know what the original shelving of the case stated.

It is a matter of record.

The Mccann's and their associated have not come under investigation by OG.

Mr. Sutton clearly is no one's fool.

You should take note of what he said.

TIMHO, naturally.

[Benice]

You know what the original shelving of the case stated.

It is a matter of record.

The Mccann's and their associated have not come under investigation by OG.

Mr. Sutton clearly is no one's fool.

You should take note of what he said.

TIMHO, naturally.

I was actually hoping you would have a stab at answering the following two questions in my post:-

(1) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

(2) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?
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But not to worry if you can't think of a credible answer.       I can't think of one either.

(must go out now)

[stephen25000]

I was actually hoping you would have a stab at answering the following two questions in my post:-

(1) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

(2) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?
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But not to worry if you can't think of a credible answer.       I can't think of one either.

(must go out now)

SY had a remit, the remit was to investigate abduction.

Originally UK Police recommended that the PJ investigate the McCann's, since there was nothing to indicate abduction, and as Sutton is clearly aware, there are inconsistencies in the McCann's and associates version of events.

This was changed to abduction, yet evidence of such an event was clearly lacking.

As to SY, in case it has escaped your attention, they have no powers of arrest in this case. The incident occurred in Portugal.

So, on your return, read what Mr. Sutton has said.

It might help.

[barrier]

How much time has Operation Sardine spent in PdL?  I made that name up by the way.  Do the PJ even have a name for their investigation?

Maybe the PJ have no need to publicise their goings on,justice works in silence.The next time we'll hear any thing about Grange will be in the Autumn when the next batch of funding will be announced,sell in May come back on St Leger day,it'll be about that time,all imo of course.

[ShiningInLuz]

How much time has Operation Sardine spent in PdL?  I made that name up by the way.  Do the PJ even have a name for their investigation?

I haven't followed the Oporto investigation, for the simple reason that very little information escapes judicial secrecy.

AFAIK, officers from the squad did put boots on ground in Luz at the start of their review.

[jassi]

I haven't followed the Oporto investigation, for the simple reason that very little information escapes judicial secrecy.

AFAIK, officers from the squad did put boots on ground in Luz at the start of their review.

After 10 years there can't be much point in poking around PDL ( unless you plan to dig some holes)
Any clues to what happened will be in the early statements, not on the ground.

[Brietta]

SY had a remit, the remit was to investigate abduction.

Originally UK Police recommended that the PJ investigate the McCann's, since there was nothing to indicate abduction, and as Sutton is clearly aware, there are inconsistencies in the McCann's and associates version of events.

This was changed to abduction, yet evidence of such an event was clearly lacking.

As to SY, in case it has escaped your attention, they have no powers of arrest in this case. The incident occurred in Portugal.

So, on your return, read what Mr. Sutton has said.

It might help.

I'm agog to read your answers to Benice's questions; any chance she'll be able to read them on her return 

[ferryman]

I'm agog to read your answers to Benice's questions; any chance she'll be able to read them on her return 

I think Benice has been a tad mean, as have you.

It's simply not fair to ask questions to which there is no credible answer ....

As Benice, herself, admits she can't think of a credible answer, either.