UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[G-Unit]

I was actually hoping you would have a stab at answering the following two questions in my post:-

(1) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

(2) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?
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But not to worry if you can't think of a credible answer.       I can't think of one either.

(must go out now)

You could be asking the wrong questions.

1] I don't think the McCanns were or are important at all, so the reason for them not being investigated may lie elsewhere.

2] Perhaps SY didn't have the information needed to understand how this case might rebound on them.

[stephen25000]

I'm agog to read your answers to Benice's questions; any chance she'll be able to read them on her return 

I feel sure she will.

I feel sure she will also be able to explain why SAY have failed so wholeheartedly in pursuing abduction, with no results to show for it.

As for why SY didn't investigate the McCann's. Well who gave the go ahead for the investigation can answer for that, or may be she can't.

[stephen25000]

While you're at it Brietta, perhaps you can explain why any thorough investigation going back to the start of the case, as Redwood promised, didn't do that.

Perhaps you think Redwood just followed his instructions on the case , and did what he was told to do.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think Benice has been a tad mean, as have you.

It's simply not fair to ask questions to which there is no credible answer ....

As Benice, herself, admits she can't think of a credible answer, either.

I would argue there s nothing credible about the SY investigation hence why no one can answer... well apart from the person who  forced the Government s hand to get searching for 'our lil Maddie' In case it has escaped your notice, there is now an industry  built around this  child, of which it appears she has had no benefit at all, and never got any from the 'fund' either to date.

[Eleanor]

I would argue there s nothing credible about the SY investigation hence why no one can answer... well apart from the person who  forced the Government s hand to get searching for 'our lil Maddie' In case it has escaped your notice, there is now an industry  built around this  child, of which it appears she has had no benefit at all, and never got any from the 'fund' either to date.

There is No Proof that anyone forced The Government to do anything.  I will delete any further statements of this.

[ShiningInLuz]

After 10 years there can't be much point in poking around PDL ( unless you plan to dig some holes)
Any clues to what happened will be in the early statements, not on the ground.

There's a lot to poke around for in an incident investigation.

The crucial aspects of the Smith sighting are not in the PJ Files.

There is nothing in the PJ Files about the best place to carry out an abduction.

I have completed Luz Tour #6.  My tours normally include the mound, the site of the 2014 dig.  It's important, just not for the reason OG thought it was.

I could go on, but I don't see the point.  If you think you are getting £11 or £12 million quids worth from armchair detectives in London, so be it.  We will simply have to differ.

[Brietta]

There's a lot to poke around for in an incident investigation.

The crucial aspects of the Smith sighting are not in the PJ Files.

There is nothing in the PJ Files about the best place to carry out an abduction.

I have completed Luz Tour #6.  My tours normally include the mound, the site of the 2014 dig.  It's important, just not for the reason OG thought it was.

I could go on, but I don't see the point.  If you think you are getting £11 or £12 million quids worth from armchair detectives in London, so be it.  We will simply have to differ.

I'm not sure I see the point you are driving at, SIL.

What is the problem you seem to have with Operation Grange?  As far as I am concerned they are investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

What is it you think they are doing?

[ShiningInLuz]

There is No Proof that anyone forced The Government to do anything.  I will delete any further statements of this.

I would assume you haven't seen the BBC Panorama special from 3 May 2017.

31:34 for anyone interested.  Theresa May responded that the government had coincidentally decided to approve a review.

[ferryman]

I would assume you haven't seen the BBC Panorama special from 3 May 2017.

31:34 for anyone interested.  Theresa May responded that the government had coincidentally decided to approve a review.

Forced as in the sense of compelling outcomes of any enquiry (not done).

[ShiningInLuz]

I'm not sure I see the point you are driving at, SIL.

What is the problem you seem to have with Operation Grange?  As far as I am concerned they are investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

What is it you think they are doing?

Let me see.  What problem do I have with an investigation that has a flawed remit, that has steam-rollered Luz, that has seemingly cocked-up the Smith siting, that has hauled 4 no-longer-of-interest people to Faro to expose them to public glare?

Am I permitted to say it reminds me of the Keystone Cops?

If this is the UK's finest at work, then Madeleine stands no chance.

[stephen25000]

Let me see.  What problem do I have with an investigation that has a flawed remit, that has steam-rollered Luz, that has seemingly cocked-up the Smith siting, that has hauled 4 no-longer-of-interest people to Faro to expose them to public glare?

Am I permitted to say it reminds me of the Keystone Cops?

If this is the UK's finest at work, then Madeleine stands no chance.

Nicely put.

[barrier]

What is the problem you seem to have with Operation Grange?  As far as I am concerned they are investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

Really? the Portuguese have come under much criticism for the first and in many a supporters eye flawed investigation by not treating it simply as an abduction with what could be suspected far more limited resources than the brits have under the heading of OG,yet with a unending supply of money until possibly now, upward of 30+ officers at one stage they are no nearer in ending the mystery,thats not a problem?
They went scratching around in the dirt which produced nothing went on to 4 persons of interest which provided nothing, where now one wonders.

[jassi]

Really? the Portuguese have come under much criticism for the first and in many a supporters eye flawed investigation by not treating it simply as an abduction with what could be suspected far more limited resources than the brits have under the heading of OG,yet with a unending supply of money until possibly now, upward of 30+ officers at one stage they are no nearer in ending the mystery,thats not a problem?
They went scratching around in the dirt which produced nothing went on to 4 persons of interest which provided nothing, where now one wonders.

And, IMO, as long as they continue to look only at stranger abduction they will get nowhere.

[slartibartfast]

I was actually hoping you would have a stab at answering the following two questions in my post:-

(1) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY were told they could not be investigated?

(2) WHY are the McCanns so important that SY would agree to a request which could possibly result in their officers being responsible for perverting the course of justice?
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But not to worry if you can't think of a credible answer.       I can't think of one either.

(must go out now)

Are the McCanns important? Not really, however the repututations of senior figures who initially supported them may be to those senior figures.

[Brietta]

Really? the Portuguese have come under much criticism for the first and in many a supporters eye flawed investigation by not treating it simply as an abduction with what could be suspected far more limited resources than the brits have under the heading of OG,yet with a unending supply of money until possibly now, upward of 30+ officers at one stage they are no nearer in ending the mystery,thats not a problem?
They went scratching around in the dirt which produced nothing went on to 4 persons of interest which provided nothing, where now one wonders.

You really have no idea why Scotland Yard "went scratching around in the dirt" so please don't criticise police procedures you are not in a position to understand.

Like the rest of us you probably have a passing awareness of police procedures whereby individuals are interviewed either as witnesses, people of interest or as suspects.

For the life of me I cannot comprehend the objections being raised to the police actually doing their job and interviewing people within the law in any inquiry let alone as part of one concerning a missing child.
How else do you suggest they rule individuals in or out of their investigation?